[Opinion] Myth Expenditures are Absurd

[ColdGuy]

Ok, sure, this currency is unlimited (except for the 2k cap), sure, go ahead and get it all, but where? IN THE SAME GODDAMN PLACE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN GETTING IT FOR MONTHS!
The real problem here isn't the price itself, it's the fact that, in order to do it as fast as possible, there's only one place we can grind Myth at, and it's boring as hell.

INB4 "Well you can do your roulettes every day and be done in 3 months!"
Yes, i can do my roulettes and have to deal with DF random player selection so that in 3 months i'll have some progress to be proud of... No thanks...

But i'm also not doing Brayflox 2 boss speedruns (INB4 "You just want everything handed to you!"), why? Because i'm not doing the same piece of content over and over to the point of not wanting to see the FFXIV icon in my start menu. If i have to do a piece of content so much that it takes the fun out of playing the game, it's not worth it.

So then they go and make the Novus quest... What do we have to do to get our Novus? SAME SHIT ALL OVER AGAIN!

TL;DR: Screw FATE grinding, screw Myth grinding, i'll just wait till they nerf it to the ground.

[UBERHAXED]

Ok, sure, this currency is unlimited (except for the 2k cap), sure, go ahead and get it all, but where? IN THE SAME GODDAMN PLACE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN GETTING IT FOR MONTHS!
The real problem here isn't the price itself, it's the fact that, in order to do it as fast as possible, there's only one place we can grind Myth at, and it's boring as hell.

By very definition... Yes one will always be faster than everything else, even by a few seconds. Not sure if you were trolling or what. And the problem here is that you want to do it "in the fastest way possible" and they made it so that people like you will take forever to do it.

[Samburi]

Ok, sure, this currency is unlimited (except for the 2k cap), sure, go ahead and get it all, but where? IN THE SAME GODDAMN PLACE WE'VE ALREADY BEEN GETTING IT FOR MONTHS!
The real problem here isn't the price itself, it's the fact that, in order to do it as fast as possible, there's only one place we can grind Myth at, and it's boring as hell.

If the fastest way is boring, do it slower. Why choose everyone the fastest way and then complain about their own choice?
I'm on my 6th book and I only entered Brayflox if duty roulette gave it me or I needed to do it for a book.

[Skyl1n3]

I like the idea of being able to use Soldiery Tomes to buy Alexandrite, constantly running Brayflox in-between Raids is a serious downer.

[Enepttastic]

Cap Atma gain at 1 per day.

No. Adding a cap to Atma acquisition per day would actually make the current system even worse. The pure RNG-based system added to the mind-numbing method to invoke is the problem here.

Reduce Animus Book cost to 1,200 Myth.

No. Animus book should honestly have something BESIDES myth as its gating mechanic. Even then, removing a mere 300(1/5) of the cost per book isn't much of a change.

Reduce Animus FATE Respawns to 2-3 hours maximum.

This I can agree with, perhaps even lower the pop time. I'm sorry, those who like their nostalgia, but we(MMO Players) have progressed beyond thinking that waiting hours for content to pop is good design.

Reduce Alexanderite cost to 600 Myth.

No. This one's optional, there's absolutely NOTHING requiring you to buy Alex. Cost is fine. Myth buy-in for inks should be replaced however.

Add alternative purchasing for Alexanderite (e.g. 150 Soldiery & 25k Seals).

No. Alex has the most options of progression as-is and has yet ANOTHER coming up. There is no reason to add another source.

Add alternative purchasing for Star-3 Mat's (e.g. 50-150 Soldiery & 10k Seals).

Can't deny that there needs to be more options here, I'm really tired of the design philosophy of, "Hey, you're a crafter and have max gatherers? Guess what, you STILL can't obtain all that you need!" However, soldiery/seals isn't the way to go.

Adjust i70 Dungeon drops to 15>15>30 Myth to encourage 'full-running'.

Won't have anywhere near the intended effect. Originally misunderstood this one. Still disagree however. People who join in progress shouldn't receive over half the tome rewards for killing only the last boss compared to anyone who's been in the dungeon from the start, which is what this suggestion would allow.

Redesign Transmutation to "trade 3 for a guaranteed, random tier upgrade".

No, the randomness here is fine.

Remove chance of failure from Novus infusion.

Nah.


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Curious why Myth reallocation in i70 dungeons won't have 'near the intended effect'?

Why won't that stop players from cutting out after 2-boss or doing practically nothing but Brayflox HM speed runs for Myth?

Truth be told, I misunderstood that suggestion. Thought you were suggesting that the bosses give that much additionally. That said, still don't agree with the with the idea. Someone who joins right before the final boss really shouldn't get more than half of the tome reward(half myth + all soldiery per your suggestion) the players who stuck it out for the entire dungeon did.

[CGMidlander]

No. Animus book should honestly have something BESIDES myth as its gating mechanic. Even then, removing a mere 300(1/5) of the cost per book isn't much of a change.

You're kidding, right?
300 myth * 9 = 2700 myth
2700 myth / 50 myth per run = 54 runs of Brayflox

Assuming you are in a farm group that can go for 54 runs straight with no bio breaks, member replacements, mistakes...etc. @ 7 minutes per run,
54 * 7 = 378 minutes / 60 minutes/hr = 6.3 hours

[Gesser]

Curious why Myth reallocation in i70 dungeons won't have 'near the intended effect'?

Why won't that stop players from cutting out after 2-boss or doing practically nothing but Brayflox HM speed runs for Myth?

[Daniolaut]

Adjust i70 Dungeon drops to 15>15>30 Myth to encourage 'full-running'.

Can i stand very prominent and loudly and say hell to the effing NO on this one.

I am so so so so so so so so so so so sick of running dungeons.

I 'main'ed' PLD got 5 books done and on WAR atma now with 5 books done... and.... i tried to get a party finder to do garuda hard mode (i used to do 4 minute runs in i80 ish gear) or something for myth, just to do something different but alas to no avail because people only will do brayflox.

(note i already did myth worthy roulettes, and did random queueing in DF until there were no more instant queues.

Currently today i'm logged off at the moment because i'm just so sick of coil farming and dungeon farming for 2309209380923840298340293 mythology points..

I like playing all 9 jobs and having them geared with atma/animus/novus makes my head bleed with the amount of myth i'd need. (Currently they all have levi x weapons.)

No more dungeons for myth please. People are even starting to use them for spiritbonding now. Its making me dissatisfied.

[Gesser]

Can i stand very prominent and loudly and say hell to the effing NO on this one.

I am so so so so so so so so so so so sick of running dungeons.No more dungeons for myth please. People are even starting to use them for spiritbonding now. Its making me dissatisfied.

Did you skip all the portions where I recommended reductions to Myth Costs or alternative expenditures? And, for your information, my suggestion for encouraging full clear gives a bonus +10 Myth to those dungeons.

[Daniolaut]

Did you skip all the portions where I recommended reductions to Myth Costs or alternative expenditures? And, for your information, my suggestion for encouraging full clear gives a bonus +10 Myth to those dungeons.

no i didnt skip it but when i saw that my mind went kinda rage sorry lol.