Question: What is Dragoon best at ?

[Alise]

Me and friends were discussing about how each job is specialize to best at something different.

Tank :
Pld (best defend), War (best hate)

Healer :
Whm (best AoE heal), Sch (best single heal)

Caster :
Blm (best AoE dps), Smn (best single dps)

Supporter :
Brd (the only supporter currently)

Melee :
Mnk (best single dps), Drg (???)

So I wonder what is Dragoon best at? Does it has anything to be better than Mnk in comparison? or anything that it is the best at?

[Danbo05]

Dragoons overall DPS increases when paired with Bards. They also don't have to worry about their "stacks". Warrior also has a niche of being a handy OT, because one of their moves increases slashing damage by 10%.

[Alise]

Will Dragoon include 10% from bard has more DPS than Monk? If no, then what make 1 Dragoon + 1 Monk better than 2x Monks? (other than little faster in LB speed which not really matter compare to dps different)

[Atreides]

Not better but with a good bard they will be about on par DPS whise, if your group runs 2 bards it will be superior.
If 1 brd would already bring the drg ahead every group would take a Drg over Mnk anyday.
It depends on the setup, if you have 2 bards you will ALWAYS prefer a Drg over Mnk.
It's still better to take a Mnk + Drg instead of anything double, but taking double drg will never be a good idea where monks can still make it work out by having one of them go on Dragonkick duty.
That and you don't miss out on gear if you have every class present... We don't have a Drg in our group but if we did he would be ilvl 110 easily by now, because it's raining drg for us... First T9 weapon was Drg too.
I'd call that divine punishment for not taking a drg with us.

[Itseotle]

Imo there just solid. High ST dps, High AoE DPS, high Mobility, slight utility boost. They don't need to be "best" at anything because a good DRG can be "excellent" in just about any situation if played properly.

[Ephier]

Dragoons have burst. Lots of burst.

[PArcher]

DRG are best burst damage by far. We can do heavy amounts of damage in a short time when we have our CDs up (even more if Jump and VT decide to crit), and do good sustained damage when they're down.

I know a few groups without DRG who have some minor issues dealing with adds you have to pop quick, moreso as they learn the content. But even after you know it, being able to burn them down even faster is still very useful


I do disagree with some of your other labels. WHM are better AoE healers than SCH, but with no Lustrates SCH are not better single-target healers; WHM is a reactive healer (healing after damage is taken), SCH is preventative (tries to prevent a lot of the damage). PLD may be able to sustain more damage over a long period of time on average, but WAR are better for burst-mitigation (esp when paired with a SCH. See T5 and Death Sentence) and do make better OTs, on average (again, see T5, but for an exception)

[Alise]

Thank for all the answer. So basically, Drg is mixing class then. a melee Dps that reduce dps a little but gain some support and AoE sound about right. (Or could say that he is burst DD, but really not so much useful imo about burst since there aren't so much situation that need it, and most of the time other dps combination can over come that) About whm vs sch debate, I would leave it to healer forum, but I disagree about Sch not stronger in single target heal. As you already stated condition "without Lustrate", Well, Sch is supposed to have Lustrate, it is one of key performance ability.

My static T6-8 keep raining with Monk items. Didn't expect your case that your static always get Drg gear lol, in my case, we only seen 1 gear in 2 months. We already assume that Drg gear has lowest drop rate.

[PArcher]

Thank for all the answer. So basically, Drg is mixing class then. a melee Dps that reduce dps a little but gain some support and AoE sound about right. (Or could say that he is burst DD, but really not so much useful imo about burst since there aren't so much situation that need it, and most of the time other dps combination can over come that)

DRG have no abilities to reduce damage. They also have almost no support, since Dis is more for them, and the BRD boost is just a nice perk, and stuns can be an issue (T5/Levi).

DRG are the burst job. They do also bring great sustained single-target, and better AoE than BRD, but the thing that sets them apart is the burst. And that burst is definitely useful, and good DRG will take advantage of it (you notice the difference most when you normally have a good DRG, then one day do not and see that things do not die as they should).

About whm vs sch debate, I would leave it to healer forum, but I disagree about Sch not stronger in single target heal. As you already stated condition "without Lustrate", Well, Sch is supposed to have Lustrate, it is one of key performance ability.

As for Lustrate...you have 3/min, max (less if you use Sacred Soil to mitigate, which you should). There are definitely fights where that is not enough, especially at lower ilv for the content or if something goes wrong (bad crit, tank derped, added mobs come to the fight, too little DPS, etc).
If a SCH has all three stacks for Lustrate, they are better single-target heals...but that's burst-healing. Which you just said is something pretty much useless for DPS...so its not useful healing either, right? 2 WHM are more than able to overcome that need for burst healing with their greater sustained healing...

[Atreides]

My static T6-8 keep raining with Monk items. Didn't expect your case that your static always get Drg gear lol, in my case, we only seen 1 gear in 2 months. We already assume that Drg gear has lowest drop rate.

We always thought it has the highest drop rate, we get showered so bad in drg drops that we soon have 3 not main classes fully decked with the left side... xD
It's just bad luck I'd say, fuck the RNG. >.<