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  1. #1
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    Fatestorm's Avatar
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    Ghalleon Helseth
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90

    Crystal Tower queue times are just awful still.

    Hit my limit at 177 minutes before ragequitting out of party finder. How about you guys? I know it's worse than what I've seen.

    I'm a little frustrated at either options at this point. One is that duty finder is broken. One is that we can't scrape up 24 people across all servers on NA prime time who want to do this blasted dungeon. Or both.

    Something needs to be done about both.

    edit: My latest experiment.

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    Last edited by Fatestorm; 06-08-2014 at 01:16 AM.
    --Ghalleon Helseth of Arrzaneth
    Eius in obitu nostro praesentia muniamur.

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    Arkista Valentine
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Crystal Tower Queue time is pretty crazy. I understand why, There just isn't enough incentive to still do CT. I tried two times today on MNK said screw it hopped on PLD and still took around 10mins. Crystal Tower Myth should have been 250 per run. People just don't want to deal with the crap. First run didn't even finish KB cause the DPS sucked, So many people at the minimum for ilvl just to spirit bond. Last run wasn't so bad, but still had some people messing up here and there.

    I think the only way to fix crystal tower would be to increase myth reward to 250, Or take out Spirit Bonding in Crystal Tower.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fatestorm View Post
    Over 9 hours! I think you should log out of the game and try again. I once waited like 65mins for a 15min wait, logged out/in and I was in within 5 mins.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 06-08-2014 at 01:50 AM.

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    Archulak's Avatar
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    Lady Archulak
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    If you're queing up solo it's not that it can't find 24 people, it's that it can't find 6 tanks who want to go in for each set of 12 dps(there's a lot more dps than tanks queing so it takes forever, not really anything to be fixed here). Also DF does not match you with all na servers just your data center(Aether in your case)
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    Welsper59's Avatar
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    Eros Maxima
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Archulak View Post
    If you're queing up solo it's not that it can't find 24 people, it's that it can't find 6 tanks who want to go in for each set of 12 dps(there's a lot more dps than tanks queing so it takes forever, not really anything to be fixed here). Also DF does not match you with all na servers just your data center(Aether in your case)
    ^

    I don't think I've ever had to sit through 3hr queue times on Primal servers. Average is 30min... MAYBE 1hr, depending on day and offtimes.
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    Stouter Taru
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    I went to queue up for a CT a few hours ago, first as BLM, average wait time 30 minutes. Quit that, changed to WHM and tried again, average wait time 8 minutes. Quit that, change to WAR, average wait time less than 5 minutes, took about 1½ minutes.

    Level a tank, level a healer. CT doesn't take top gear, you'll do fine in mostly darklight as long as you know the mechanics and what you're doing.
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    Valaerin Mathens
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
    ^

    I don't think I've ever had to sit through 3hr queue times on Primal servers. Average is 30min... MAYBE 1hr, depending on day and offtimes.
    Hell, I'm on Aether and I've been in queue for about 45 minutes as a tank. Granted, that was primarily due to commencement roulettes. 23/24 ready.....wait five minutes, ding, 22/24 ready, wait five minutes....

    Granted, I haven't queued since I finally got the boots from CT to have the full(minus head) outfit. Tired of dealing with the idiots in it. Specifically the ones who act like asses and/or start pulls without being sure everyone's ready or understands the fight. Newbies to CT I haven't the slightest problem with as long as they listen to instructions.

    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    I went to queue up for a CT a few hours ago, first as BLM, average wait time 30 minutes. Quit that, changed to WHM and tried again, average wait time 8 minutes. Quit that, change to WAR, average wait time less than 5 minutes, took about 1½ minutes.

    Level a tank, level a healer. CT doesn't take top gear, you'll do fine in mostly darklight as long as you know the mechanics and what you're doing.
    Pfft, I did fine as a WAR in my AF gear, may have gotten my zenith already, and mostly green ilvl 55 accessories.

    Editing to conserve posts:

    Quote Originally Posted by StouterTaru View Post
    CT is much better since 2.28, end game players are going in for myth tomes, so it's not just fresh 50's that have no clue anymore.

    Weapon in actuality is about half your ilvl, even though the game only counts it as 2/13. Body and pants are also proportionality higher than the rest of the gear, with those 3 at ilvl70+ you will have an easy time with 45-50 gear in the rest of the slots.
    I'm well aware of how strong/important one's weapon is compared to the rest of the gear, that said. My upgrade path after hitting 50 was pretty much the following: Wearing AF gear -> Buy ilvl 55 accessories -> Got a green dungeon helm -> Got Legs, Gloves, Body(In that order IIRC) from CT, bought Myth Belt, accidentally bought PLD Myth Head....In short, I pretty much skipped Darklight and went straight to tome/CT gear.
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    Last edited by Enepttastic; 06-07-2014 at 01:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enepttastic View Post
    Granted, I haven't queued since I finally got the boots from CT to have the full(minus head) outfit. Tired of dealing with the idiots in it. Specifically the ones who act like asses and/or start pulls without being sure everyone's ready or understands the fight. Newbies to CT I haven't the slightest problem with as long as they listen to instructions.
    CT is much better since 2.28, end game players are going in for myth tomes, so it's not just fresh 50's that have no clue anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by Enepttastic View Post
    Pfft, I did fine as a WAR in my AF gear, may have gotten my zenith already, and mostly green ilvl 55 accessories.
    Weapon in actuality is about half your ilvl, even though the game only counts it as 2/13. Body and pants are also proportionality higher than the rest of the gear, with those 3 at ilvl70+ you will have an easy time with 45-50 gear in the rest of the slots.
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    Luxx's Avatar
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    Cress Albane
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Can't wait for premades up to 24.
    I am damn tired of people spamming the withdraw button all day too.
    I waited 45 mins to an hour once because people join, leave, join leave.
    Drive's me up the wall.
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  9. #9
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    Selawyn Kludra
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I wrote this in another thread. Mythology is *NOT* a big enough incentive to get people to go back into there because the advanced players have Brayflox HM to do now which utterly eclipses practically everything else. Either they're going to have to make a Raid roulette in the future to get the advanced players back into it or they're going to have to split the older CT raids into 4/8 person parties per wing and balance the difficulty and loot accordingly. They'd essentially be quick boss runs like Coil, and I don't think too many people would be upset with that.

    People above item level 80 have almost zero reason to go in there (even if they level a new class because their main can just farm myth for level 90 gear). The only people that go in there now are people new to it and/or want/need the clear, people who want vanity gear, and people who are bored. None of which amount to a large pool of players these days, which results in long queue times, even if you join party in progress. And there's no guarantee this pool of players will get to the end let alone keeping people to STAY through the whole thing. The place is inundated with trolls these days too.

    CT is not a lost cause, but they really need to staunch the bleeding soon.
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  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhindas View Post
    I wrote this in another thread. Mythology is *NOT* a big enough incentive to get people to go back into there because the advanced players have Brayflox HM to do now which utterly eclipses practically everything else.
    45 minutes for 150 myth, versus 160 myth for 30-40 minutes plus gathering time.

    I saw someone shouting for a healer for Bray myth runs for over 20 minutes in multiple zones earlier today, god knows how long they ended up looking and how many runs they actually did, if any. I have seen countless Bray speed runs in party finder with 2 dps in them, looking for tank and healer. Just because you can do 40 myth in 6 minutes doesn't mean everyone can be online for an hour and get 400 myth in that time.

    Dps are screwed either way, but with a ilvl70 tank and healer you can normally get faster tomes in CT than with a ilvl100 dps.
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