Guildhests? GUILDHESTS!

[Rhindas]

Well they patched *all* the hests to be one level lower because they said something about they felt the hests were too easy at the current sync. If you notice, they are exactly no more difficult at one level lower. It's true Overpower is not needed there, a Conjurer can Tank, Heal, and DPS there if they were so inclined. That's not the point.

[Mysteltain]

I was thinking the same thing earlier today. I really like both the quick 'n easy nature of the guildhests, as well as the fact that they also require at least a little coordination. I'd love to see some iLvl50 synced guildhests that involved things like having your party split up to invade a Castrum. Half of the party sneaks around back to disable the security systems, and the other half needs to fight against endless waves of soldiers until the other team completes their objective. Once that's complete, you need to sneak through the Castrum and destroy a prototype Magitek Reaver as a boss.

Basically, make these "Expert" Guildhests last around 20 minutes or so and give them a high GC Seal reward. It'd be pretty fun, and would get more people into doing them, I think.

[Saccharin]

You know, you can always play another game if that frustrates you

If I did and others who feel like that then the game would be an empty shell. The developers have correctly noticed that hardcore raiding games just aren't viable these days. Why do you think Blizzard have implemented different levels of difficultly in their raids. Raids take massive amounts of developers time for only a small amount of players - it's financial suicide throwing so much time on a very small group of players. Even the first coil has been given a buff to make it more accessible. In my opinion Carbine have made a grave mistake with Wildstar by making 40 (2x20) man (hardcore) raids. Sure it'll be easy to recruit now but a year down the line they'll run into difficulty. They'll need to reduce the raid sizes and either nerf them or made alternative difficulties.

Make it so if you ignore the mechanics then you die, fail, whatever.

We have that in the turtle and boy does it infuriate me just watching as we fail because one idiot of a tank (usually) has no clue.

They were supposed to be optional tutorial fights which is why they probably feel they don't need to add any more. I disagree, however, since they're not very good at teaching at the early levels how to use their mechanics because they're perhaps a bit too easy and they're also a little biased against new player Marauders at first.

I've noticed this myself since I started marauder. Luckily my first class was gladiator so I had flash to help. Overpower is so... overpowered and should be available at 10 instead of 15, I think?

[givemeraptors]

If you play all the guildhests after doing endgame content it's funny/amazing how much you realize they're supposed to teach you.

Burning the boss, AoE damage, timing stuns, handling add mechanics, healer/tank/dps checks etc.
But when you're a new player it all goes over your head.

[Felis]

2 guildhests every 5 level, beginning with level 10.
I'm sure more are coming with level cap increase

Or SE could increase the amount of guildhest to 3 every 5 levels.

Or maybe a final guildhest at the end with all the mechanics of the other guildhest in it, to test how much the player have learned. Maybe to unlock CT2

[Nayto]

But when you're a new player it all goes over your head.

Because the same end-game players are like "Screw it, ignore it. That's how we do it."
First guildhest soppose to teach you how to pick groups carfully? NO SCREW IT, IN ENDGAME WE TAKE THEM ALL ON! BWAHAHAHAHA. SR BRAYFLOX B***ES!

[Kerberon]

Because the same end-game players are like "Screw it, ignore it. That's how we do it."
First guildhest soppose to teach you how to pick groups carfully? NO SCREW IT, IN ENDGAME WE TAKE THEM ALL ON! BWAHAHAHAHA. SR BRAYFLOX B***ES!

Now I wasn't playing when 2.0 opened, but were people speed running when it first released? Most games speed / zerg runs are caused by players being overgeared for the content but still getting a reward for the content that they do want. Speed Runs in this way become a different design issue.

[Wadoka]

I've been playing now since last October and I've done two. The first one, twice. No one followed the rules, they always drew the attention of He Who Should Not Be Disturbed, we all died.

I gave up on them since they're optional and all.

[Lithera]

Now I wasn't playing when 2.0 opened, but were people speed running when it first released? Most games speed / zerg runs are caused by players being overgeared for the content but still getting a reward for the content that they do want. Speed Runs in this way become a different design issue.

Yes they've been going on since a little after launch. It all began with Wanderer's Palace speed runs. All it took to overgear that dungeon was a handful of Darklight and an Ifrit wep if that. The devs patched WP so you couldn't literally one-pull each section of the dungeon (the random key drops from the tonberries etc.) but it didn't change much.

[Viridiana]

Yes they've been going on since a little after launch. It all began with Wanderer's Palace speed runs. All it took to overgear that dungeon was a handful of Darklight and an Ifrit wep if that. The devs patched WP so you couldn't literally one-pull each section of the dungeon (the random key drops from the tonberries etc.) but it didn't change much.

I forget, were the WP SRs before or after the AK sac pull SRs?