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  1. #11
    Community Rep Camate's Avatar
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    Greetings,

    We’ve confirmed an issue where the ground target display is appearing later than normal, and we are planning to fix this in either an upcoming hotfix or patch 2.3.This issue occurs when these actions are queued up, and we accidentally left it out of the patch notes as a known issue. Apologies for the inconvenience and we appreciate your patience while we work to address it.
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    Devin "Camate" Casadey - Community Team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
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    That is nice and all, I knew I wasn't going crazy, but that isn't exactly what players are complaining about Camate. They want the ability to set the target during the GCD timer (you know, that hard coded 2.5 second window you force us to do absolutely nothing) this way it doesn't feel like a slow down to wait for timer to reset then target and place an otherwise instant use ability. However, this is an issue with all instant use abilities still. Being forced to wait for a GCD timer that shouldn't have any collision with the instant use ab (Buffs, blood letter, etc.).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitkat View Post
    That is nice and all, I knew I wasn't going crazy, but that isn't exactly what players are complaining about Camate.
    What he's saying... why is it it seems you guys avoid the content of the posts often? You guys usually reply to things waaay far off from the points of threads. Or almost never revisit a thread after we've made statements such as this man's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    What he's saying... why is it it seems you guys avoid the content of the posts often? You guys usually reply to things waaay far off from the points of threads. Or almost never revisit a thread after we've made statements such as this man's.
    What I stated and what he confirmed as a bug are two different things. On the one hand he is talking about having a target action that is taking abnormally long to appear after being used (IE you hit action and the target still takes longer than it should to appear) which is a confirmed bug, on the other hand I'm talking about using an instant use ability such as character buffs that is being hindered by the GCD if it is used after a GCD action (IE it won't even let you use the ability until the GCD timer has reset even though it is an instant use ability free of the GCD due to having its own cool down timer cycle).
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    Last edited by Kitkat; 06-14-2014 at 05:17 AM.

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    Is it even really necessary though? Sure, it would improve your DPS just a little, but it's not like it completly breaks the job.
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    Only an issue really if you're a controller user and can't remember where your ground positioning target was set at.


    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    *snippity*
    And thank god to this. Placed many a soil tonight before the ground indicator effect faded into existence. At least it didn't actually delay you in being able to use the skill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitkat View Post
    That is nice and all, I knew I wasn't going crazy, but that isn't exactly what players are complaining about Camate. They want the ability to set the target during the GCD timer (you know, that hard coded 2.5 second window you force us to do absolutely nothing) this way it doesn't feel like a slow down to wait for timer to reset then target and place an otherwise instant use ability. However, this is an issue with all instant use abilities still. Being forced to wait for a GCD timer that shouldn't have any collision with the instant use ab (Buffs, blood letter, etc.).
    Jesus are people STILL complaining abut the GCD? Memories of people on the beta forums calling for the game to be delayed because the GCD was a broken system are coming back to me.... Seriously, if the brief delay in abilities is that boring for you, just quit the game already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokuhan View Post
    Jesus are people STILL complaining abut the GCD? Memories of people on the beta forums calling for the game to be delayed because the GCD was a broken system are coming back to me.... Seriously, if the brief delay in abilities is that boring for you, just quit the game already.
    If reading people complaining about broken stuff is so boring to you, take your own advice and quit the forums
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    Only an issue really if you're a controller user and can't remember where your ground positioning target was set at.
    Actually this has nothing to do with being a controller user or not if you aren't in a static position while dropping the ground target. In some cases I will put down a ground target (flaming arrow) while moving which means it is important that the skill works as intended so that I can reposition it while moving on the fly and not wonder if it is in the right spot by waiting an added delay that shouldn't exist before dropping it. That affects any user regardless of input method.

    Complaints of the GCD and what I explained are still different as well, Gokuhan. You're talking about people thinking 2.5 second waits between all standard actions was considered a bad mechanic in general. Once again, I'm talking about the fact it is broken in the sense it affects abilities that aren't tied into the GCD because they have longer reset timers or context specific resets (DPS buffs, Tank dmg mitigation buffs). AKA abilities that are instant use with long cool downs that show as "available" even during GCD but still don't allow you to activate if used while GCD is in its 2.5 second reset cycle. IE: If I use Skull Sunder then want to use Vengence right away it won't activate until the swipe around of the GCD even though it is an instant use ability. Alternatively, I don't see this issue with moves such as Mercy Stroke or brutal swing, just when trying to use a buff action after using an attack.

    When it isn't following GCD abilities they function fine, but following a GCD ability will cause them to not work until the GCD swipes around again. Once again, misconstrued what it was I was talking about.
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    Last edited by Kitkat; 06-16-2014 at 08:00 AM.

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