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    Waeksyn's Avatar
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    Waekswys Styrmwyn
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    If you are serious at all about crafting, you will need all of the DoH jobs at level 50. If you want to focus on one or two of them, then you don't necessarily need to gear all 8 at 3 star level. The best way of doing this, IMO, is to level all of the jobs at the same time (including DoL). You'll find that requirements for leves on one job will often need crafted materials made by other jobs at a level just below the one you're working on. Same for DoL mats. When you do them all at the same time, you also are able to easily HQ craft all of your gear as you move up (you'll need to use HQ mats - which you gather or craft yourself). When you clear a level across all jobs, you make new gear and convert the old gear, sell (or use) the materia and move on.

    Progression through DoH and DoL is really dependent on HQ materials and final crafted item. If you are leveling DoL at the same time, you gather your HQ mats and sell the NQ ones. Same for farming mob drops. This creates positive cash flow and you'll find your wallet growing fatter as you progress.

    Make no mistake, though, the process is not quick. If you spend your DF queuing wait times out gathering or farming, it's amazing how much you can accomplish. SB'ing while in dungeons where your performance won't suffer or while farming is also a good idea. The gil you make there can help accelerate the process.

    Shinzoku is right that a high level crafter can HQ any (non-starred) item 100% of the time with all NQ materials and without using food.
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    Last edited by Waeksyn; 06-09-2014 at 11:49 PM.

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    Lineage Razor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waeksyn View Post
    If you are serious at all about crafting, you will need all of the DoH jobs at level 50.
    Just so you aren't scared TOO badly by this, so long as you get the level 15 cross-classes, there's still a lot you can do with a single class at level 50. My first tradecraft to 50 was Goldsmith, with all other tradecrafts at level 15. I was able to reliably HQ single-star recipes. Not 100% of the time - no crafting strategy that relies on Hasty Touch will ever manage that - but close enough that it was pretty rare to get a NQ.

    I never attempted a double-star recipe until I had a few more skills (Peacock Ore was expensive, and I was too much of a chicken to risk it), but once I did it wasn't nearly as bad as I feared, and I suspect I would have had a high HQ rate even if I hadn't waited for those skills.

    If leveling all crafts is too daunting, don't be discouraged; a single-50 crafter can still do quite well for themselves, even if a lot of recipes will be beyond their reach.
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    Attackat Muaddib
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    a single-50 crafter can still do quite well for themselves, even if a lot of recipes will be beyond their reach.
    The lvl 50 skills I use to HQ 99% of 40 dura, and 100% 80 dura 1 and 2 star items from NQ mats, and to be able to *make* 3 star items -

    ALC: Confort Zone
    ARM: Piece by Piece (req for 3 star)
    BSM: Ingenuity II
    CRP: Byregot's Blessing
    CUL: Steady Hand II (37)
    GSM: Innovation
    LTW: Waste Not II
    WVR: Careful Synthesis II

    So yeah, you can start making some gils with just one DoH at 50, but generally your base material cost will be high and profit low.

    When you have ALL DoH at 50, that is when you start to make real gils using just NQ mats. Yes, even CUL is necessary because you to feed yourself a lot of Bouillabaisse.

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