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    Noryoku Nory
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    Relic quest summary -> Good by to casuals

    **** TITLE TYPO ERROR : Goodbye**

    Relic weapon : 1 dungeon, 3 primals, 2 trials, long quest -> 1-2 days
    Zenith Weapon : 900 Myth -> 2-3 days
    Atma : 20-30h Fate grind -> A week or 2 of only grinding
    Animus : 13500 Myth -> About a month or 2 depending on your grind
    Novus : 60000 Myth OR 75 days of map -> 75++ Days if doing daily quest + materia melding failure wasted days

    In my case, I don't even have Animus yet, getting novus will take approx 150 days as i don't play everyday. If I start now, novus will be my christmas gift

    Conclusion : The relic weapon quest is ABSOLUTLY NOT for casual anymore.... /wave casual. As a semi casual 10h++ a week. I think it's a /Goodbye relic-novus-whatever after novus quest

    P.S I'm wondering who will really attempts novus quest except hardcores
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    Last edited by NoRyoKu; 06-06-2014 at 11:40 PM.
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    Why does everyone seem to think casuals are baddies or people who can't stomach grinding? Casual simply means we take things at our own pace. I just finished my third animus book but I can guarantee you I'll be working on novus when I'm done in a few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoRyoKu View Post
    Relic weapon : 1 dungeon, 3 primals, 2 trials, long quest -> 1-2 days
    Zenith Weapon : 900 Myth -> 2-3 days
    Atma : 20-30h Fate grind -> A week or 2 of only grinding
    Animus : 13500 Myth -> About a month or 2 depending on your grind
    Novus : 60000 Myth OR 75 days of map -> 75++ Days if doing daily quest + materia melding failure wasted days
    ^ I play every day for at lest 5 hours so not even close to casual . . . . I still haven't bothered finishing my first book. I don't think this is just putting casuals off but a lot of hxc players will be put off too!!
    That being said, I hope they don't change it. . . . fewer maxed out relics will add to their charm imo
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    Good thing another round of CT is right around the corner!

    Also see: Patch 2.0 - Titan is to hard for casuals!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrinn View Post
    Why does everyone seem to think casuals are baddies or people who can't stomach grinding? Casual simply means we take things at our own pace. I just finished my third animus book but I can guarantee you I'll be working on novus when I'm done in a few weeks.
    You can thank the 7th console gen and the Wii, with it's library of party games and shovelware, for distorting what the term "casual gamer" means within the gamer community.
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    i wont say goodbye causals, but i will say : goodbye to all any alts classes relics you arent planing to specialize in!

    the atma/animus/novus grind just make getting relic on alt jobs a useless. the amount of time you need to put into novus for ONE job is stupidly high. so freaking high that trying to level the other relics is nonsensical.
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    My definition of casual : (Ppl who have between 5-10h to play a week), not that they are bad but they don't have time to play a lot

    It's not impossible for casual to get it, but do you think that 6 month / a year of grinding is OK??? I don't .... I don't because by the time casual will get there novus, a lot of other content/upgrade/gear/..... will be out there, they are going to be left behind by a large margin. Is it what this game is about, ditching casuals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoRyoKu View Post
    In my case, I don't even have Animus yet, getting novus will take approx 150 days as i don't play everyday. If I start now, novus will be my christmas gift

    Conclusion : The relic weapon quest is ABSOLUTLY NOT for casual anymore.... /wave casual. As a semi casual 10h++ a week. I think it's a /Goodbye relic-novus-whatever after novus quest

    P.S I'm wondering who will really attempts novus quest except hardcores
    Actually it's pretty easy on casuals, if anything it's turning away hardcore players. Hardcore players want the stuff asap, then they get burnt out grinding it. A friend of mine in FC is about as casual as they come, and they got their animus sooner than most people I knew who grinded often (simply by doing DR every single day, he didn't grind a single dungeon other than that). If you just take it slow and do a bit a day, you will already be on the next step before the next major patch.
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    I'm confused by the thread title. Is it good BY casuals or goodbye to casuals? :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoRyoKu View Post
    My definition of casual : (Ppl who have between 5-10h to play a week), not that they are bad but they don't have time to play a lot

    It's not impossible for casual to get it, but do you think that 6 month / a year of grinding is OK??? I don't .... I don't because by the time casual will get there novus, a lot of other content/upgrade/gear/..... will be out there, they are going to be left behind by a large margin. Is it what this game is about, ditching casuals?
    But it's not ditching? It's a quest that is supposed to take a long time, there are other weapons (easy to obtain) that will provide the stats required for all dungeons/raids/trials. The Relic isn't something that should be gifted it should be a long arduous grind. I personally would like to see 1 in every 1000 players. . . so that it actually has some meaning and feels like it's a rare item.

    again, just my opinion
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