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    Quote Originally Posted by vyaku View Post
    You sound very foolish.
    Say´s the one, running out of MP and has to use the "oh shit, i messed up" skill...
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    Yukairi Ran
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    Quote Originally Posted by wicked-one View Post
    Say´s the one, running out of MP and has to use the "oh shit, i messed up" skill...
    Say's the one that's likely using a sub-optimal rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uninstall View Post
    Say's the one that's likely using a sub-optimal rotation.
    Jeah, we could go on with this forever, numbers are on my favor so I don´t worry about... why the hell am I still looking in this forum anyways....
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    Stouter Taru
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    I did some math and some testing, 250 seems to be a nice AoE plateau for Piety. It gives you just enough mp to flare > convert > fire2 > flare.
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    I would agree with you but then we would both be wrong. You are forgetting to include the cost of the initial Fire 3 under Umbral 3 which cost just under 100 mana. With each piety giving 8 mana, that's where the 251 piety figure is derived from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uninstall View Post
    I would agree with you but then we would both be wrong. You are forgetting to include the cost of the initial Fire 3 under Umbral 3 which cost just under 100 mana. With each piety giving 8 mana, that's where the 251 piety figure is derived from.
    No, it was derived from casting Fire3 followed by 5 fires from a dead stop.

    Fire3 costs 133 under any UI.
    Fire costs 638 under any AF.
    Blizzard3 costs 79 under any AF.
    Scathe/Thunder costs 212 any time.

    So starting from UI3, Fire3 > 5x Fire > Blizzard3 > Scathe/Thunder costs 3614. That's 238 Piety, not 251.

    Each Piety is also 8.25 mp, not 8.
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    He is talking about Thunder 2 that's why.
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    Im interested in the piety cap for novus. I made a thread in general discussion about a 6fire rotation and 289 piety. 6 fire rotation was proving to be a decent chunk more dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SukoshiSeppen View Post
    Im interested in the piety cap for novus. I made a thread in general discussion about a 6fire rotation and 289 piety. 6 fire rotation was proving to be a decent chunk more dps.
    Piety is 23
    Determination is 31
    Everything else is 44

    You can see caps by clicking on your scroll and the materia type, you'll see 0/##
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    Hopefully this question is somewhat on-topic... what's the progression weapon-wise for Blm at level 50? I've done ATMA and a couple of books on PLD, and was wondering if it has to be done all over again for BLM, or if there are other weapons that are better than the ATMA BLM weapon?
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