Low level duty roulette party

[dspguy]

I was bit surprised when I log in and tried to do a low level duty roulette and couldn't do it in a party like you can in expert/high level roulette? Why treat low level roulette any differently?

[XGeneral2000]

The point of the low-level duty roulette is to:

1) Lower queue times for low-level progression content by feeding higher level players into the queue who would otherwise have no incentive to do so

2) Put experienced players into lower-level content to help and teach new players

Allowing premades to use the low-level roulette would completely defeat the purpose.

[Icaras]

Something tells me there's only a very small minority that would always have a full party ready and raring to go for even low level roulettes.

[Yonko]

You realize that by not allowing people to queue for the roulettes together your more likely to have them not run. I'd gladly queue as my blm with a tank/healer from my FC and just do the roulette for the bonus but I don't have time to sit in the long DPS queue on my blm most days.

[kwayn]

The point of the low-level duty roulette is to:

1) Lower queue times for low-level progression content by feeding higher level players into the queue who would otherwise have no incentive to do so

2) Put experienced players into lower-level content to help and teach new players

Allowing premades to use the low-level roulette would completely defeat the purpose.

And how would this defeat the purpose exactly? If that's the case then they shouldn't have put it in the game at all because then 50's that Q for higher dungeon's aren't getting them either because of people having a full party so yeah.... wouldn't make a difference considering most of the time i might have 1 person with me i would like to see low levels in there. I personally haven't seen a difference in Q times for high dungeons or anything as bard so i don't think it would hurt to put it in there so people can help out there free company when needed...

[TheCurls]

If that's the case then they shouldn't have put it in the game at all...

I was actually all for this. Roulettes have extra bonuses to even out the inconvenience of having to queue for randoms so duty finder doesn't take 3 hours. I'm okay with the level 50 roulettes being done in parties because they're not new people who need help progressing their story.

[Nicobo]

The point of the low-level duty roulette is to:

1) Lower queue times for low-level progression content by feeding higher level players into the queue who would otherwise have no incentive to do so

2) Put experienced players into lower-level content to help and teach new players

Allowing premades to use the low-level roulette would completely defeat the purpose.

But some people said that allowing premade to any roulettes would defect above purpose before the patch...
So why suddenly hi-level/expert no new players need to have help and teach?
In fact allowing premade to use high/expert would defect the said purpose as well.

IMO, roulette was made to motivate daily logon like those F2P games, as a online game, ARR wants you logon everyday. ^^;

FOr what help and teach new players, you will do it anytime, not limited in roulette.

[XGeneral2000]

But some people said that allowing premade to any roulettes would defect above purpose before the patch...
So why suddenly hi-level/expert no new players need to have help and teach?
In fact allowing premade to use high/expert would defect the said purpose as well.

IMO, roulette was made to motivate daily logon like those F2P games, as a online game, ARR wants you logon everyday. ^^;

FOr what help and teach new players, you will do it anytime, not limited in roulette.

My best guess is that enough level 50 players (both experienced and new alike) are queueing for max-level content for tomes and gear that the developers don't feel letting a few premades through will compromise the purpose, whereas the same is not true for low-level content. (Personally, I would have banned premades for any roulette, but oh well)

The roulette does help players play every day, but I don't think that's the primary goal, and even it were, banning premades does not affect that goal. People might grumble about having to risk a poorly prepared group in the roulette, but they'll still log on to run them (and if they're the kind to avoid it for fear of low-skill players, they're probably already playing it frequently with their friends anyway).

And of course people and help and teach new players anytime, roulette or no. But on a large scale, you cannot expect the community to behave so altruistically with any kind of consistency. Before the roulette, when you were at high levels, were you queuing for Sastasha, Tam-tara, and Copperbell Mines? I sure wasn't. I was queuing dungeons at my level. Sure, you might help new players if they happen to be in your party. But if you never queue for those low-level dungeons, you're never gonna see those new players, and they're never gonna see you, because there's no reason for you to queue for low-level content unless you happened to feel like being a Good Samaritan. The roulette encourages all players to run low-level content, regardless of level or mood.

[Nicobo]

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Thanks for your opinion, it gave me many good ideas.

[Lithera]

If they added that for low level roulette they'd likely make you ineligible for the bonus. Being able to run as a party and still get the bonus for High and Expert only hurts people who intentionally queue for Pharos lol Notice you can't do it for Trial Roulette either because like the low roulette it would very much hurt newer players who are looking for groups for story content.