Does SE just hate crafters?

[Black91CRX]

Didn't you just answer your own question? The person who does that "easy" work and sells the materia.

You missed the point. The person said they would rather pay for the materia (at outrages prices) rather than bond their own. That's what I find ridiculous given just how easy it is to bond. People have no patience. That's the kind of crap that fuels RMT.

[Nutz]

Another thing to keep in mind is that while the patch definitely increases materia demand, it also increases the housing gil sink *substantially* as well as increasing housing item demand. This means that though materia demand is up, the amount of gil chasing that demand will be less, so don't assume the prices will stay sky high when at the same time a large portion of the player base's liquid gil basically gets deleted via purchasing rooms.

Not just rooms either. There's the new stables, which might be cheap, but since you only purchase it once per FC it'll likely be expensive. On top of that, FCs who haven't seen a use for a house might now see one.

SE's current stance on crafting is an odd one though. The new repair all above 100% even when in dungeons was a nice boon to people who've leveled crafting classes, but aside form that there's just very little cross over. I feel like I craft to get better gear/ materia to craft/ gather better than I could before, but it has almost nothing to do with the combat side of things. It's a bit different when leveling a new combat class and you can quickly and easily pop out a full suite of HQ level appropriate gear, practically on a whim. Post 50 (combat) is quite a bit different though, but I only have 2 combat classes I actually play.

[Burrmanchu]

Well, the OP has a point.

Thank you. You described the situation in far more dimension than I did.

@therest:
Crafting at -any- level isn't much money when there's 500 people playing the 1g game. You must police it constantly and it gets very tedious. /10wishlist. And higher stuff? 5x melds are rarely better than high alla or upgraded soldiery in any circumstance.

I did enough SBing in 1.0 for my entire lifetime, and suggesting that as a money alternative to using one of the (all) craft jobs I have leveled, makes my point for me. "All crafts leveled? Go SB!".. wut? And saying the market evens out because Tier 1/2 are cheap? Yeah, because you really want those primarily stacked on your gear...

ALSO, unless Camate had a typo a couple days ago, in 2.3 there's going to be (GUESS WHAT!) new primary weapons. Hope you guys enjoyed that "master" grind for absolutely no reward. Phase 2 incoming. Now, who loves those crafters! I guess I was way off base.. /eyeroll

Can anyone tell me why carpenter has sh!t for recipes but retainers bring back tons of furniture? Their market left with arrows. No one wants your lame ass shields.

Remember ALC making crystals? Twenty bucks says that's what fish will desynth into. Should have just left it how it was.

edit: Oh wait I've got another! Goldsmith had a decent market, then "wolf" gear came out. Finally picked back up when people saw PvP gears for glamour. Now in the new Frontlines (which everyone will do instead of 4x4 grind if they even like PvP), morale gear has no effect. They just keep knocking our legs out from under us, patch after patch. So many worthless recipes... Everyone make the same 10 things and undercut gogo!

[Cynthis]

In fairness, SE also hates gatherers. I will never forgive SE for making my luminary tools worthless in ARR.

[Penguinmayhem]

"In 2.3 you can now dye all those epic-level gear pieces people wanted to dye! Just take them with even more grind items to some chick who'll convert them for you! Craftable conversions? Why would we give crafters something to do?"

[Kyana]

"In 2.3 you can now dye all those epic-level gear pieces people wanted to dye! Just take them with even more grind items to some chick who'll convert them for you! Craftable conversions? Why would we give crafters something to do?"

Sarcasm?

Let me add another one.
You can craft augmented gear. SE didn't forget about crafters!

Temple Attire Augmentation:
Terminus Putty
Saurian Leather
Wolfram Ingot
Hard Hippogryph Leather
Darksteel Ingot

Magicked Stable Broom x20 (required for Chocobo Stable cleaning):
Glazenut (hey everyone is going to want a Chocobo Stable so let's make a consumable which requires one of the most expensive materials)
Broombush
Bamboo Stick x5

They didn't forget to give us our slap in the face!

[16bitBounty]

Implement cool ideas then make it so no one can afford them! Get bent Squeenix!

[Xine]

You guys forgot about the awesomness that is getting the Mastercraft Demimaterias to go from i70 -> i75 main hands! Desynth your i70 main hands for a Mastercraft Demimateria when you need not 1, not 2, but 3 of those Mastercraft Demimaterias plus 5 new Materials that can't be traded between players or sold on the market boards that have absolutely no other use in the game! But to even make those new materials, you need the old materials that were useless beyond getting your i70 tools as well as 2 Fieldcraft Demimateria IIIs for each one!

............Thanks for the kick in the nuts and the baseball bat in the teeth SE. It was bad enough these are limited to Desynthing, but made it even worse that the damned things were added in 2, 5 or 10s for EACH of the new synths added in 2.3 on top of other 2 and 3 star materials, essentially making it damn near impossible to HQ any of it without some serious luck (RNGesus needs to meet his end already). I'm all for a grind but my god, the horrid grinds just keep coming and getting worse. Its beginning to remind me of FFXI Relic/Mythic quests.