Sightseeing...

[Nalien]

We are getting a NPC that tells you the weather forecast in 2.3 right? So at least that will help ^^;;;;;

Sadly not.

This should be a nice little side thing to do when you're bored. Not something you check the weather NPC for. Not for the vast majority of the entries at least, a few weather/time required ones would be nice, and it would also make more sense for some weather to prevent completion, rather than one weather required. If it's rainy or foggy and you can't see the vista, that makes sense. If it's fair and you need cloudy or clear? That's ridiculous.

It's fundamentally broken, having a NPC tell me when I'm allowed to go sightseeing isn't going to make it any more enjoyable.

[Niqote]

damn yew 1000 characters

I don't disagree with you but I do understand why weather is needed because the log is supposed to be an experience of a very specific memory, and to re create that - the right mood is needed.
So Lore wise it makes sense, but I think this would have been far more immersive if there was a short cut scene.

For example, the one in the cave at La'Noscea requiring rain. It could have been a nice melancholic scene; but it is kind of... *waits around* *sparkle* *get out of dodge*.

I don't really protest the requirements if they fit like the case above. But needing fog in the Carpenter guild is pretty silly ^^
Or right now I am spamming 005 - apparently it needs to be day though as the overcast weather isn't enough to trigger it.

[EmiliM]

X Sightseeing Log
O Wait-for-the-stars-to-align Log

This could have been a fun feature, but now its just a waste of time. And I guarantee you the majority will agree (as they are in this topic, with just a few dissenters). Newbies will start the game, reach level 20, and they'll get the quest and they'll be like "Oh that's cool! Let's find one of the locations!" and they'll go and find one...And they'll be unable to complete it...so they'll ask "Guys, I'm at the location for a vista but its not working" and then someone will tell them "Oh, you have to wait for the right weather to activate one", and they'll say "Oh cool, how long does that take?" and they'll be told "Could take anywhere from 10 minutes to 10 hours or more, since the weather also needs to correspond to a specific time of day" and the newbie will say "...Oh...this is stupid. Well I'm gonna go do something else then" and they'll never touch the sightseeing log again.

Basically this. I think the discussion in the development meeting room must've went like this:

Yoshida:
"So this is how the system will work. We specify a bunch of secret locations that people will need to find and reach to cross them off their log"

Designers:
"I see. So these will be jumping puzzles for hard to reach places like the rope in Revenant's Toll?"

Yoshida:
"Oh no, that'd be too obscure and hard for some people to do. We'll make it easy to find."

Designers:
"Oh I see. Well, how will we challenge the players then?"

Yoshida:
"I'm glad you asked, Designer-kun! We'll make it so that everything is tied to the weather and time, and you can only record the entry when you're at the right place at the right time during the right conditions. This way we can keep people from finishing too quickly and make it a challenge for everyone! It's genius design isn't it!? lololol"

Designers:
"Oh how wondafuru! Hahaha... *what a dumb idea but I ain't dumb enough to argue with the almighty Yoshi-P*"

[Dels]

This game is really amazing in so many ways and from what I can gather, Yoshi was a big part of that and had some great ideas...I really just can't even begin to imagine how he came up with this one.

[bloodSp3c]

imo this thing is a complete waste of time and not worth the minion at the end...I was sort of looking forward to it but when u have to camp at a location and wait for the time and weather, which could literally take hours...ill pass!

doing the atma book waiting for fates was bad enough!

I see so many people just standing at the locations when they could be queuing up for roulette...c'mon people you're effecting my queue times even as a healer! lol

[Nestama]

I see so many people just standing at the locations when they could be queuing up for roulette...c'mon people you're effecting my queue times even as a healer! lol

I'm only standing around not queuing for anything because I'm going to be making dinner soon~

[Goodberry]

The weather requirement is really a genius move, completely ruins what could have been a nice feature.

Somehow I am not surprised. :P

[Eisengrim]

We have the echo ability. We should be able to see certain conditions just by being in such a location! If they wanted to push seeing these under certain conditions, a nice little echo cutscene would've been perfect.

I bet they just wanted to see if they could make something as casual as sight-seeing into a grind.

[AndoRyu]

Is this the thread to complain about Sightseeing? Cause seriously, this is a horrible implementation. I want to play jumping puzzles to find cool and interesting places, not play the weather game. This is pretty insulting content. Most people are quitting the game because of lack of challenge or repetitiveness. Adding "random" spawning weather and time restraints will just frustrate the user base.

[Hezkezl]

If you guys are upset by this, then don't partake in it! The very small number of people who do actually do it, will show to SE that it's not as successful as they'd hope and they'll change it. Complaining on the forums about how its implemented likely won't change a thing, as players complain about everything all the time anyway