How are you handling your Novus upgrade?

[Moqi]

If I can get enough PIE to cast an extra Holy, I'll think about PIE. But if I can't, I'd rather go with Spell Speed. Makes me feel safer.

[Viviza]

In regards to stats, I just finished getting my scroll, and the quest text is pretty clear that you can meld up to five types of materia to the weapon.

So I don't see why, say, DET/PIE/CRIT would be a problem. As long as it adds up to 75 it should be fine.

[hqdm]

I've been thinking about stat efficiency, and I'm not sure how to weight the stats so to speak.
Crit/Det was what first jumped to mind as SCH.

I considered like, the amount of stat you get per materia.
CritIV = 9 crit, ssIV = 9 ss, DetIV = 6 det, PieIV = 6 pie

SE weights Det at ~0.7 per point of crit/accu/ss on gear, in regards to how they distribute substats, slightly higher than the materia value.
Daystar belt vs High Allagan belt is perhaps the purest example of this, the only differences being 13 crit on Daystar vs 9 det on HA.


As far as Novus goes: SS I'm not sure about because it increases in efficiency the more you have of it, and if we're slotting in a point by point situation, it'll take 9 novus points to equal 6 pie, if that makes sense. Likewise crit. In this case, it's moot for det, since we hit a cap at 31 or whatever. But what if (open mind, just consider it, lol) we consider maxing pie over crit first. Theoretically ending up with 31 det, 33 pie, 11 crit. Point-by-point, more efficient a weapon than 44 crit, 31 det, by what we're allowed according to a SE stat distribution metric.

I happen to have a perpetual thirst for crit, so it doesn't appeal to me as much, but I can't help but think about this stuff.

I'm not aware of any SCH-specific stat weights because we're multirole, and each stat contributes differently, unlike dps' single purpose.
While, yes, SCH in an ideal situation won't have mana issues, that doesn't mean we can't spec pie into the weapon, and remove it in other slots.
eg,. HA pants over Daystar pants, HA neck over Daystar neck (if you weren't already planning).

But I guess the main problem with this is that it's going to be at the expense of crit regardless, and so it's probably best to just avoid Pie in the weap, rearranging accessories if you're low. Easier to fix your accs later than it would be to redo the entire weapon. Even a det/ss dps build wouldn't require that extra pie since det/ss innately both come on gear with higher pie levels than crit gear does.

tl;dr Crit/Det for me

[givemeraptors]

tl;dr Crit/Det for me

The thing is that for SCH Crit and Pie have greater weight because they actively change our skills. Adlo crits are obvious, but Succor crits are also boosted because it still reduces the waste of overhealing since by definition you can't overshield. Pie enhances Aetherflow since it's a flat 25% regen unlike Shroud of Saints which is a set amount. Those two stats go further on SCH, but since SCH doesn't have MP issues (shouldn't have MP issues), it might be best to go with Det.

Also worth considering is that a SS build might actually become viable now if you're completely outfitted in SS gear and using Selene (her boost scales with your equipment, also not a flat rate). It might be worth testing out how low you can get your SS without the weapon and then judge whether max crit + SS is worth it.

[Hysterior]

4/75... it's gonna take a while...

[alhandra]

crit/det and if anything left over then pie. ss is useless for sch

[HaelseMikiro]

Having read 40 something pages of this thread I've decided to go 3 stats on my Omnilex. Since it seems that you're required to move to higher grade materia after putting a certain number of a specific grade onto the scroll (ie: Savage Aim I for the first 11 successful melds, then Savage Aim II for the next 11 ...etc) I'll be stopping at 30 Crit. I really have no desire to buy/SB the number of SA IV that I'd need to get the scroll all the way to 44 crit. Nor risk blowing up SA III once the meld chance drops around 60%. I figure a SCH needs 459 PIE to break 5k MP (5005 if my formula is correct), if you throw in Pineapple Juice HQ and a party bonus, I'd need 429 PIE.

So in conclusion, I'll be scrolling : 30 Crit, 20 PIE , 25 Det
(Subject to change my mind down the road...again)

[Staris]

Accuracy, because I doubt we will ever have a different weapon with accuracy and sometimes that extra dps is a larger difference then any amount of healing.

[Taika]

I'm not sure yet, but I think I'll go either 44 crit + 31 det or 31 det + 33 pie + 11 crit on my Thyrus.

[Nicobo]

Just curious why no one say crit is bad for whm now? I read many many whm said crit is the worst choice for them previously ^^;