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    Viviza Viza
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Yeah I was just looking at the 110 weapons and saw that the Yagrush has those stats already. Funny, really.
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    Yonko Chao
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Grotesque View Post
    Det/Pie you can have with Coil7+8 as whm.
    Quote Originally Posted by Viviza View Post
    Yeah I was just looking at the 110 weapons and saw that the Yagrush has those stats already. Funny, really.
    Yeah I could but my static just started clearing T6. And as a healer I'm low on the list to get the weapon, and still getting soldiery pieces for my healers (WHM/SCH) granted should be done with that after next week but I have other jobs I'd like to gear up. And depending on what the caps are you could get the Novous higher. That's not to mention what the next stage will get you too.
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    Narako Osaki
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I am not 100% sure but the Sphere Scroll Thyrus Caps are:

    Accuracy : 35
    Skill speed : 44
    Critical hit : 44
    Piety : 33
    Determination : 31
    Spell speed : 44
    Parry : 44

    So we can't add 44 DET and 31 PIETY but max 31 DET and 33 PIETY and with the remaining 11 points we could spend them in Accuracy but the result would be in a weapon a little better than Yagrush. Is it worth it?
    Maybe is it better go with 44 Spell Speed and 31 DET?
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    Yonko Chao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narako View Post
    I am not 100% sure but the Sphere Scroll Thyrus Caps are:

    Accuracy : 35
    Skill speed : 44
    Critical hit : 44
    Piety : 33
    Determination : 31
    Spell speed : 44
    Parry : 44

    So we can't add 44 DET and 31 PIETY but max 31 DET and 33 PIETY and with the remaining 11 points we could spend them in Accuracy but the result would be in a weapon a little better than Yagrush. Is it worth it?
    Maybe is it better go with 44 Spell Speed and 31 DET?
    Given those numbers I'd either do PIE/DET/CRIT or CRIT/DET. This will depend on if we can do 3 stats to get to the 75 or just choose 2.

    Might look into ACC depending on what my ACC is at when I get to that point. I don't think I'll be able to get it high enough to hit even with +11.
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    Legacy Wolfwood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonko View Post
    This will depend on if we can do 3 stats to get to the 75 or just choose 2.
    this is exactly what i want to know. i dont want to be forced to put the last 11 into acc. id love to do pie/det and the last 11 on sp.s or crit. leaning towards the sp.s.
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    Rumina Asou
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Legacy_Wolfwood View Post
    this is exactly what i want to know. i dont want to be forced to put the last 11 into acc. id love to do pie/det and the last 11 on sp.s or crit. leaning towards the sp.s.
    for healer weps, it looks like acc is here to stay. its a bonus stat, and wont get removed when you upgrade
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    Menae Dulanis
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Narako View Post
    I am not 100% sure but the Sphere Scroll Thyrus Caps are:

    Accuracy : 35
    Skill speed : 44
    Critical hit : 44
    Piety : 33
    Determination : 31
    Spell speed : 44
    Parry : 44

    So we can't add 44 DET and 31 PIETY but max 31 DET and 33 PIETY and with the remaining 11 points we could spend them in Accuracy but the result would be in a weapon a little better than Yagrush. Is it worth it?
    Maybe is it better go with 44 Spell Speed and 31 DET?
    That's probably not how it's going to work. Determination takes up more item budget than crit/skill/spell/parry, which is why the cap is lower (same for piety, though not quite as bad). That means that if you choose to put 31 points in Determination, you likely will only be able to put in about 31 points of Spell Speed. If you choose to put in 44 points of Spell Speed, you likely will only be able to put in about 20-22 points of Determination. Think of it like this. You get $75 to spend on stats. Crit and Spell Speed cost $1 per point, and the merchant only has 44 of them in stock. Determination costs about $1.41 and the merchant only has 31 of them in stock.

    I'm not CERTAIN that's the case, but it seems likely given how all the other items in the game get determination at about 2/3 the rate of other stats.
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    I'll go for either DET+PIE or DET+CRIT on WHM, depending on how my MP feels when I get to try T9.
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    Last edited by Taika; 06-06-2014 at 04:35 AM.

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    Rin Shiraishi
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    Phoenix
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    Warrior Lv 60
    I am going to get the Thyrus Novus at a snail's pace. Don't really wanna dump 1300 soldiery into a Yagrush, especially because we all need sands on the actual gears. At any rate, those 2ndaries would be what I am gunning for - namely, DET+PIE. I have the High Allagan Grimoire of Healing on my main-spec so I'll be skipping that entirely and just taking my sweet time with the Thyrus.
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