Dragoons need to be buffed...

[Jollyy5]

..Or classes balanced otherwise, I'm a bit surprised that I didn't see a thread about this.

I don't like it that while Dragoons are a pure DPS class with two stuns but no support skills, Monk can still dish out more damage AND have support skills, namely Mantra, Arm of the Destroyer(silence), One Ilm Punch(Dispell for adds) and Dragon Kick for 10% INT reduction.

As a pure DPS class, Dragoons should naturally have higher DPS than monks, or have some sort of support skills like they do, not to mention that when I was browsing the questions and answers about patch 2.3, I almost flipped a table when I saw that a question about "buffing Black Mages" got through.

Am I really the only one who thinks this crap does not, or shouldn't fly?

P.S. Don't even mention Disembowel to aid Bards, I'm aware of it, but I don't like being only good for buffing their DPS.

[Ardan]

I think it's absurd, that while Dragoons are a pure DPS class with no support skills, Monk can still dish out more damage AND have support skills, namely Mantra, Arm of the Destroyer(silence) and One Ilm Punch(Dispell).

Stopped reading at this line.

[Atreides]

P.S. Don't even mention Disembowel to aid Bards, I'm aware of it, but I don't feel like being a Bard's "squire".

You don't have to feel like it but you are.
A Bard is in pretty much every group and you boost his DPS by 10% which pretty much makes up for the DPS you do less than a monk, now take 2 bards and you're more useful than a monk.
Whats important is the overall damage you contribute for your Raid DPS not your own to wank off on your high numbers, if you want that you're playing the wrong job.

[Viridiana]

Did. . .did you seriously just try to pretend that One Ilm Punch is useful? And ignore Disembowel? What did I just read?

[Altimis]

wait until Yoshida decide to introduce Dragoon old traditional pet

Wyvern want to say hello

[Ricdeau]

You used One Ilm Punch as an example for a Monk's utility...seriously? I want you to name one boss fight in level 50 content where it works. The balance between Monk and Dragoon is pretty good, and better than what most MMOs have given us for classes performing the same role. With that being said every class has it's issues, and they will always need some fine tuning. However, what you are asking for is silly. Explain why dragoons should "naturally have higher DPS than Monks", and why Disembowel shouldn't be considered especially since every raid is going to have a Bard.

It's been widely known that Black Mage was getting a buff, and even in their response to the question they said Black Mage was not the only class that will receive adjustments.

[Madoka]

P.S. Don't even mention Disembowel to aid Bards, I'm aware of it, but I don't feel like being a Bard's "squire".

Guess Bards shouldn't put up Foes, or else they'll feel like someone else's patsy.

Don't be a shitter and learn to play DRG. The only fight where a MNK will beat a DRG or a SMN is a fight where they keep GL3 up the entire time, and even then a good DRG can still overtake them if they do the proper longassfuck combo. You also have two stuns, the bard (and yourself) buff you refuse to use, a self TP regen and BfB.

MNK has to be in a certain form to use their silence or perfect stance. OIP is completely useless in raid content. You are being a bad DRG and whining for no reason.

[Alcyon1]

..Or classes balanced otherwise, I'm a bit surprised that I didn't see a thread about this.

I think it's absurd, that while Dragoons are a pure DPS class with no support skills, Monk can still dish out more damage AND have support skills, namely Mantra, Arm of the Destroyer(silence) and One Ilm Punch(Dispell).

As a pure DPS class, Dragoons should naturally have higher DPS than monks, not to mention that when I was browsing the questions and answers about patch 2.3, I almost flipped a table when I saw that a question about "buffing Black Mages" got through.

Am I really the only one who thinks this crap does not, or shouldn't fly?

P.S. Don't even mention Disembowel to aid Bards, I'm aware of it, but I don't feel like being a Bard's "squire".

Go back to WOW.

[Thorauku]

I agree.........................

[Sleigh]

MNK and DRG are pretty nicely balanced with each other, even if I'd give the (very slight) edge to DRG in a one melee comp. MNK's got the higher individual sustained, Dragon Kick INT debuff, and 20% Mantra, and less usefully a long CD Stun and situational Silence. DRG's got more sustained total with BRD buff if your BRD is actually good, better AoE, better burst, more reliability when it comes to mechanic RNG (forcing DRG to detach from the boss is far less risky compared to MNK), a frequent CD stun, and a few other negligible advantages.

DRG doesn't need a buff. I'd argue it's up there with BRD as one of the jobs every comp should have regardless of if you do DRG BRD BRD caster, DRG MNK BRD caster, or DRG BRD caster caster.