Current weapon options makes no sense!

[Gardes]

Let's list the weapon options we have first:

-High allagan: for coil2 goers that are already 'there'
-Tome weapon: for coil2 goers that are still trying to finish the last turn (unless certain jobs/players chose not to)
-Allagan weapon: you need to beat coil1 to be able to get this
-Leviathan weapon: for players that cant go to coil 2, inferior to tome weapon even after the very rare mirror enhance
-Novus weapon: massive time sink, players serious about this weapon will try to blaze through to the end while i think the majority will try to do this at a reasonable pace

Now, for people who hasnt beaten T5, the first 2 weapons are out of the question while the 3rd weapon would mean you have already beaten coil1 and would already be trying for the first 2 weapons I listed anyway. So that leaves leviathan and novus. Leviathan isnt the strongest but to even try for this, you would need to beat titan ex, a boss that is still a major wall to alot of players. They could be players that are ready to move up on the weapon ladder but are unable to because of reasons be it personal skill or group resources. Yes, they need to beat these fights regardless but their only other option is the super long grind. They could also be players that play really casually and would gear up simply with myth because their play time only permits them to get those tomes. Their weapon option would be the super long novus grind too! Alot of players are simply turned off by this, no doubt.

In a few months, the ilvls will increase again to something like...i130/i135 weapon level and some players will still be at i90. Remember when tanks went into dungeons with an i55gc/i60ifrit weapon and met i90 relic+1 weapons? Alright, yes, SE will add unidentified allagan tomes to CT in 2.3. People can grind tomes and wait 3 weeks to get an i100 weapon. Alright, SE said they will make the novus line easier once ilvl increase so people can catch up. Forget that for this to matter, these players would be starting from the very beginning of the quest line and they would still need time to catch up but that's not the problem here! They're all tomes! All they're doing is grinding for tomes! You're making the majority of your players do nothing but grind tomes for progression!

I've been lucky enough to be able to get into a group, allowing me to go into 2nd coil instead of just getting tomes to go past i90 but really, I feel like that this doesn't make sense or fair. I dont think player category isnt as simple as casual or hardcore; there's personal skill, availability of players to play with and their skill, players' time availability and lastly the desire to progress and each player will have their own mix of these variables. But why is it that the most accessible weapon is the most tedious and time consuming of them all? Winning T7 and T8 and then capping soldiery for 3 weeks feels waaay less bothersome than me going up the relic line! And I'm one of the last DPS to get the tome! Isn't this just punishment for the 'small time' players instead of fun?

I'm not too against the novus grind and I'm not directly asking for changes to this line of weapon but shouldnt there be even more options? Where's my up to date GC weapons and gears?

[Surian]

Sorry, it took a while for you to edit your one-line post to this...

Yeah um... Welcome to the world of modern MMO's, where making stuff irrelevant two weeks down the line in favor of the flavor-of-the-day weapon is what matters, instead of the ever so interesting side-grades FFXI had that all had use and functionality.

I dont do Coil (i dont like it), so my only options are Leviathan (yeah... like i'm ever going to be allowed to do Levi EX or the three primals before that even with a non-coil weapon...) or upgrading to Novus.

Sucks, but that's the way SE decided things should go. It's terrible yeah. No side-grades, nothing good or interesting to get.

Its:
- Do coil2
- beg your way into PF groups to get to Levi and be allowed to run that 100+ times.
- Spend 4-5 months upgrading relic to Atma>Animus>Novus

There's no weapon for anyone casual. (no, spending 1200 fates for Atmas, 13500 myth tomes from 338 runs of Brayflox, and this Novus crap after that isnt CASUAL)

[lololink]

I'm not too against the novus grind and I'm not directly asking for changes to this line of weapon but shouldnt there be even more options? Where's my up to date GC weapons and gears?

Why more options ? there are 5 options right now, don't see what option you would want to add, if you can't/don't want to do leviathan EX at least then what's the point in gaining a new weapon if you aren't going to use it ?

[Vejjiegirl]

Don't forget i100 pvp weapons

[Kanzaki0]

I did think it was a bit silly that they had the tome only in coil2 and the only other options were the levi weapon or animus for the non-coil2 players. At least with the tome being added to CT in 2.3 that makes it a viable choice for those who are tired with Zodiac quests and Levi farms. Just gonna take my time finishing my Animus and have some tomes stashed for 2.3.

[CyberSection]

good daxx shxx SE, Novus weapon upgrade make Leviathan weapon is shit now!!!!

[XNihili]

Why more options ? there are 5 options right now, don't see what option you would want to add, if you can't/don't want to do leviathan EX at least then what's the point in gaining a new weapon if you aren't going to use it ?

I think the hidden meaning is not "there should be more option" but "I want a strong weapon that is easy and not time consuming to get".

[Omegakiyohime]

Not to be that guy, but aren't the primal weapons the casual weapon? I mean, if you can't do coil 1 or 2, or gradually save for Atma/Animus/Novus, what do you really expect in terms of weaponry? Certainly, not something equivalent without any effort. No, levi ex weapons are your option atm and that's how it should be right now. 2.3 seems to be opening up this by adding tomes/sands/oils to CT, but you really cant expect to be on par with players clearing and doing content that your aren't.

[Rufalus]

Where's my up to date GC weapons and gears?

Good question and I believe it was once planned for 2.3 although I don't know if that is still the case. Higher GC ranks and higher rewards there are overdue a bit. I think GC weapons at i90/95/100 would not be asking too much, since the relics and tomes weapons are still more powerful at their i110 upgrade level.