Novus weapon upgrade system findings

[Xine]

I'd just ignore them at this point. Constantly arguing and attempting to build hope where it will possibly destroy what some people may be hoping for is a good way to have people form a negative opinion about you. Personally, I'd like to see Shea's weapon come closer to finishing so I can figure out if I want to put Det as my secondary attribute or stick with Acc and build up my Crit to 44 first for 31 Acc. Having 31 Det sure as hell would be great and all, but I do NOT have that much faith in SE's programming to fully allow for 44Crit and 31Det when its obvious on every single piece of equipment in the game that Det has a lower cap than the other secondary attributes. Sure, its proven that 31 Det is the cap for Det on i110 weapons, and it very well could wind up being 44/31 Crit/Det, but again, I do not have that much faith in SE's programming and how their "hidden numbers" work for it to wind being this way. I'd rather wind up seeing this 44/22 Crit/Det idea turn out to be false than go with the idea of 44/31 Crit/Det and wind up being disappointed because someone wanted to be so adamant about it being true that it turns out to just be giving people false hope.

[LunarEmerald]

I'd just ignore them at this point. Constantly arguing and attempting to build hope where it will possibly destroy what some people may be hoping for is a good way to have people form a negative opinion about you. Personally, I'd like to see Shea's weapon come closer to finishing so I can figure out if I want to put Det as my secondary attribute or stick with Acc and build up my Crit to 44 first for 31 Acc. Having 31 Det sure as hell would be great and all, but I do NOT have that much faith in SE's programming to fully allow for 44Crit and 31Det when its obvious on every single piece of equipment in the game that Det has a lower cap than the other secondary attributes. Sure, its proven that 31 Det is the cap for Det on i110 weapons, and it very well could wind up being 44/31 Crit/Det, but again, I do not have that much faith in SE's programming and how their "hidden numbers" work for it to wind being this way. I'd rather wind up seeing this 44/22 Crit/Det idea turn out to be false than go with the idea of 44/31 Crit/Det and wind up being disappointed because someone wanted to be so adamant about it being true that it turns out to just be giving people false hope.

Talk to the guy at north shroud. He can show you what your stats will be based on what you've already infused.

It's 1:1.

[Donjo]

Talk to the guy at north shroud. He can show you what your stats will be based on what you've already infused.

It's 1:1.

That's fine, and a good measure of progress. However, nobody has tried this while their scroll has less than 75 infusions but more than 75 points of stat weight infused. We'll have to wait until more infusions get performed on a relevant scroll to prove this, unfortunately.

EDIT: Are any Paladins actively working on a Holy Shield that will contain Determination? That will be the quickest way to find out!

Unweighted is 13 of a Stat and 9 Determination.

Weighted is 13 of a Stat and 6 Determination
or 9 of a Stat and 9 Determination

[Xine]

Talk to the guy at north shroud. He can show you what your stats will be based on what you've already infused.

It's 1:1.

Tell me that when its been confirmed with a completed Novus weapon and I'll believe it, until then its nothing but text that's already been proven to not give you ALL of the information that's required "by players" to be able to completely understand how a quest works. Call the previous lack of descriptions bugs or typos it doesn't matter. But until this is proven one way or another, I don't encourage anyone to believe the text letter by letter.

And just as well, I dont think this has been mentioned by anyone yet, but the game can not predict how you will meld your scroll. Nobody has compeletely melded up Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry on their weapon yet, so it goes without saying that the game could just show you the actual caps of the two attributes that are partially melded on the scroll. In which case, say you have 31 or lower for Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry on your weapon and 22 or lower Det, the game does not know if you're going to continue melding more Det, or add more to Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry instead. But even then, you can have a mixture of up to a maximum of 5 different attributes so regardless of how you -want- to meld it, does not mean the game can actually foresee what you will absolutely get at the end until Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry IS capped on the weapon before it gives you a set in stone number value for Det. I think a lot of people have over looked this little fun fact in their arguments.

However, its entirely possible that Novus weapons can exceed the current idea of what an i110 weapon will have on it since it uses Materia to increase/alter the attributes. All crafted equipment has specific caps per attribute, but NOT an overall total cap between secondary attributes. Since there is going to be a ton of speculation on this, its best to keep the speculation down to a minimum until one is completely finished and can give concrete evidence as to whether or not you can cap Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry to 44 AND Det/Pie to 31.

Something people are being blinded by is their own ideas about what this quest will ultimately come down to as far as how different or similar the Novus is compared to the other weapons in the game currently. None of us are actually saying "Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry will cap at 44 and after that Det/Pie can only cap at 22. We are only saying that you should not get your hopes up that you WILL get 44 Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry and 31 Det/Pie. What's actually going on here is people are getting butthurt that they may not get this and they refuse to believe that.

[blowfin]

Something people are being blinded by is their own ideas about what this quest will ultimately come down to as far as how different or similar the Novus is compared to the other weapons in the game currently. None of us are actually saying "Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry will cap at 44 and after that Det/Pie can only cap at 22. We are only saying that you should not get your hopes up that you WILL get 44 Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry and 31 Det/Pie. What's actually going on here is people are getting butthurt that they may not get this and they refuse to believe that.

Um, the screenshot released with 2.28 CLEARLY showed that a sphere scroll had 44/31 infused on it and that the weapon would receive those exact stats.

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/450...0386770_28.png

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/t/450...30386770_1.png

You can meld up to 75 stat points (of 5 different types) on your Novus. Regardless of materia tier, it's 1:1. It's pretty damn clear if you've actually been following people who've been working on Novus.

[Xine]

Um, the screenshot released with 2.28 CLEARLY showed that a sphere scroll had 44/31 infused on it and that the weapon would receive those exact stats.



You can meld up to 75 stat points (of 5 different types) on your Novus. Regardless of materia tier, it's 1:1. It's pretty damn clear if you've actually been following people who've been working on Novus.

Apparently you missed my point, can you stack 44 Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry and 31 of DETERMINATION or PIETY?

http://imgur.com/Aehn0oy,bG1UgKT,3iIEWfc#0 now this is what I was looking for, now that there IS confirmation on it, we can stop the annoying argument.

[ServerCollaps]

Apparently you missed my point, can you stack 44 Crit/Acc/SkS/SpS/Parry and 31 of DETERMINATION or PIETY?

http://imgur.com/Aehn0oy,bG1UgKT,3iIEWfc#0 now this is what I was looking for, now that there IS confirmation on it, we can stop the annoying argument.

yes, we can