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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Ok people really have to stop spreading this false information, I had 3 people talking about it in my LS today.
    Wait, so people are discussing theories and opinions on a system that people don't know all of the specifics of yet? Isn't that what communication is for in the first place?

    It doesn't matter what stats the other ilvl110 weapons have capped. If you do Crit/Det on your Novus it will be capped at 44/31 no if and or but about it 44/31. Its a theory backed by info on weapons that have nothing to do with the Relic progression system
    Sure, the weapons aren't relics. However, there has never been an instance in the game where a weapon of the same iLvl as a Relic has had less weight in secondary stats. For the Zenith, the alternate counterpart was the EX Primal weapons. They're all equal. The Novus has a counterpart as well: The Soldiery weapons. Based on mere precedent, they're sidegrades of each other. I doubt that many people are deliberately copying the exact stats of the i110 Soldiery Weapon with their Novus. The entire point of the Novus is to provide an alternate path to an i110 weapon that doesn't require Coil, not to exceed the strength of these weapons that require skill to obtain.

    So until someone actually finishes a Novus with full DET/Crit and they have lesser stats than what they said, Then this info needs to stop floating around.
    No, it shouldn't. If there is any reasonable chance that it could work this way, then people need to know to not assume that they'll get 31 Det and 44 of something else. It's called tempering hope, and it'll make those who used this sort of combination that much happier if the weights don't lower the numbers. The possibility exists of either of the two stats lowering because of Determination's weight. Attempting to snuff out this absolutely true information(the possibility is true, we still don't know if it applies to Novus for sure) will not magically ensure that you'll have 31 Det and 44 of another stat.

    I really think a DEV needs to step in and clear this matter up because its going to be a few weeks before anyone is done...
    Yes, this would be nice, but there seems to be minimal comment on the Zodiac Weapon Questline as a whole. I wouldn't count on it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post

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    You have no proof that says one stat or the other will be lowered by maxing them out. But we do have proof on the Sphere Scroll of Hard Caps which says DET caps at 31 and Crit caps at 44. Just because something was one way before doesn't mean it will always be the same. Yes your stats on a ilvl110 are capped out, But that doesn't mean Novus stats are going to be capped out lower than what the Hard Cap says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    You have no proof that says one stat or the other will be lowered by maxing them out. But we do have proof on the Sphere Scroll of Hard Caps which says DET caps at 31 and Crit caps at 44. Just because something was one way before doesn't mean it will always be the same. Yes your stats on a ilvl110 are capped out, But that doesn't mean Novus stats are going to be capped out lower than what the Hard Cap says.
    Since you seem to be unable to be convinced that this is possible, I'll leave you with one final comment. RPGs like this have systems running under them. Sometimes they use numbers we see. Sometimes they don't. The one thing that really matters is that the systems need to be consistent or things can and often will fall apart. The system in question in here is the one running secondary stats on weapons. I've proved that Determination and Piety are treated differently than other stats. I even obtained accurate enough numbers to remove doubt. Every weapon in the entire game having their secondary stat caps set in stone but the Novus is not consistent. That's the problem here, and it's why my theory might be true.

    So. Sit down, stop whining, stop debasing theories with other theories, and wait for a Novus that can prove/disprove this to be finished. Or finish one yourself. Either will work.
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