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  1. #751
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    Can you please change it so Atma's can drop utilizing Animus/Novus weapons?

    It'd be nice to be able to get some headway on a subclass Novus given you still have to go through the whole entire process again, and given how terrible the Atma droprate is (and how boring much of the playerbase perceives it is to grind lowbie FATE's for days).
    I have all but 2 zenith relics and after getting my Gea Bolg Animus I will never ever go through the pain of grinding FATEs and boring books to get a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokuhan View Post
    I have all but 2 zenith relics and after getting my Gea Bolg Animus I will never ever go through the pain of grinding FATEs and boring books to get a second.
    Thing is: some people would like to... I think part of the problem is how it's currently setup, it majorly dissuades people from ever doing a second... or even their first for a good lot. Many are so turned off by the process (too gruelingly extreme)... I think that should be a red-alert in the design sector.

    This would help immensely imo - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-too-much-IMHO
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    Last edited by Parz3val; 06-21-2014 at 07:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    Can you please change it so Atma's can drop utilizing Animus/Novus weapons?

    It'd be nice to be able to get some headway on a subclass Novus given you still have to go through the whole entire process again, and given how terrible the Atma droprate is (and how boring much of the playerbase perceives it is to grind lowbie FATE's for days).
    Can I just ask you WHY you would want this?

    Think of it this way: If you had all your job's relic weapons above Atma stage, what other use would you have for attaining Atma Crystals? If they made it possible for Animus / Novus weapons to drop Atma Crystals, it'd become just a nuisance as you would have no more use for them.

    PS...you have a really huge Snowman head in your profile image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Can I just ask you WHY you would want this?

    Think of it this way: If you had all your job's relic weapons above Atma stage, what other use would you have for attaining Atma Crystals? If they made it possible for Animus / Novus weapons to drop Atma Crystals, it'd become just a nuisance as you would have no more use for them.

    PS...you have a really huge Snowman head in your profile image.
    They could always add another use for Atma's... make em currency for Alexanderite or something.

    And I highly doubt anyone will ever have a full set of Atma's for every available Job, even with this change.

    You're talking 8 sets of 12 unique Atma's (96), with another set for Ninja (108).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex View Post
    Can I just ask you WHY you would want this?

    Think of it this way: If you had all your job's relic weapons above Atma stage, what other use would you have for attaining Atma Crystals? If they made it possible for Animus / Novus weapons to drop Atma Crystals, it'd become just a nuisance as you would have no more use for them.

    PS...you have a really huge Snowman head in your profile image.
    It is possible to discard them if you don't want them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    And I highly doubt anyone will ever have a full set of Atma's for every available Job, even with this change.
    This statement made me lol. XD

    I think you underestimate how crazy obsessive some players can be... And compared to MMO grinds of the past? Atma and Animus both are lightweight.

    I would wager that there's more than a few out there right now who have made it their mission to collect every Novus weapon, with plans to continue the Relic progression no matter how many grindy trials SE sets before them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    This statement made me lol. XD

    I think you underestimate how crazy obsessive some players can be... And compared to MMO grinds of the past? Atma and Animus both are lightweight.
    I couldn't agree more. While I have no interest in doing more than one weapon, as I only enjoy playing SMN, these quests are lightweight. Sure they're a little annoying, but it a easy. Compare this to getting a relic or mythic back in the hayday of FFXI and you'll laugh at how easy they've made it. I hope it gets harder so that in the future the weapons are even more annoying to upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    Can you please change it so Atma's can drop utilizing Animus/Novus weapons?

    It'd be nice to be able to get some headway on a subclass Novus given you still have to go through the whole entire process again, and given how terrible the Atma droprate is (and how boring much of the playerbase perceives it is to grind lowbie FATE's for days).
    VERY MUCH THIS
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    I would like it if they allowed us to get atma from fates as a low level class as long as we had the zenith in our armory chest/inventory. I can wish...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    Can you please change it so Atma's can drop utilizing Animus/Novus weapons?

    I don't think that would be such a good idea. Say I have Animus weapon and I'm farming for Alexandrite and We could get Atma/Alex, I get the feeling SE would screw me over and I would get Atma over Alex. Maybe if Alexandrites didn't drop from Fates then, Yes I would go for this. I just think it would screw players over having Both Alex/Atma drop while Animus is equipped. But maybe they could make it so if you are a Novus holder let Atma drop?

    Or they would have to increase the Drop rate of both to more than 1% or less.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 06-25-2014 at 05:35 AM.

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