Novus weapon upgrade system findings

[Kairobot]

So exactly how blasphemous would it be for a dps (drg) to go outside the "accepted" norm of 44crit/31 det and use a few points of accuracy for the last 5 or 6 melds that really taper off success wise? I'm currently 53/75 and about to move on to tIV materia. Till now I have spirit bound all my own materia, and haven't been very lucky with obtaining useful IVs. Almost 100 pieces of gear so far with about another 30 to go and only 3 IVs.

I'm saving up money for personal housing and I'm having a hard time justifying millions in materia cost to max out crit/det when likely in the next patch better weapons/upgrades will be available. The math seems to imply that secondaries are meager amount of the overall damage, and further that 5-8 points those stat points are trivial themselves as a part of the whole 75. I am almost ALWAYS on the receiving end of beatings from RNG so failures at 400k a pop, or hours and hours of spirit binding are absolutely unappealing.

My static is semi-casual and only on t7 at this point, so the likelihood of clearing t9 before the next update is seeming unlikely. As I upgrade I'd like to be able to be flexible and it seems like just pushing the upgrade to novus would benefit me from the weapon damage boost. It would end up something like 39 crit/ 28 det / 8 acc.

If I recall correctly the success rate is as follows on tIV.

44 stat = 100% > 100% > 100% > 100% > 100% > 100% > 96% > 90% > 82% > 72% > 60%

31 stat = 100% > 100% > 96% > 88% > 80% > 72% > 66% > 60%

I know some people are always going to be quick to judge when not min/maxed, but I'm looking for a response from those of you with logic and reason to put this in perspective rather than those with blinders on for min/max. Is this a bad idea for a DPS?

This is a repost from another thread and I can confirm it is correct:


"For a 44 max stat (e.g. Spell speed), 6/11 infusions will be 100%. It's only the last few materia of a tier that have a chance to fail. And it's not even a large chance to fail for the majority of the ones that can fail.
96%, 90%, 82%, 72%, 60% chance of success respectively.

For a 31 max stat, the odds are worse, but still not that bad for the majority of infusions. 100%, 100%, 94% ,88%, 80%, 70%, 60%,50%.

If you don't want to "risk" the last few stat points, again, look to alternative infusions or suck it up and use your wallet."

[Niurok]

So for PLD its 12 str 13 vit for shield? I still don't understand how this works. Am I suppose to go like 12 str first and then go vit? 5 materia per scroll and well right there I get confused.

[Niurok]

good explanation thanks

[Ecks007]

Finished my Summoner Novus today.

In case people haven't seen a pic of it yet, here ya go.

[DCILuther]

How many Tier 1 materia do I need for Curtana to move on to Tier 2. and how many tier 2 to tier 3, tier 3 to tier 4?

[Ecks007]

How many Tier 1 materia do I need for Curtana to move on to Tier 2. and how many tier 2 to tier 3, tier 3 to tier 4?

Well, for Accuracy, Crit, Skill Speed, Spell Speed, and Parry materia require 7 melds before you can move onto tier 2, 8 tier II before tier 3, 8 tier III before moving onto tier 4, and 8 tier IV before reaching the max cap.

However, for Determination materia it's different. Det requires 5 tier I, 5 tier II, 6 tier III, and 6 tier IV.

53 is the max stat allotment for the Curtana. Maxing one of the first materia I listed would cap at 31, while maxing Det would cap at 22. Or you can break it up however you want, the choice is yours.

Also keep in mind, the higher you go up in each tier the lower your chance for a successful meld becomes. To a point anyway, the first few materia in each tier should be a 100% meld but after that you will have a chance to fail and can lose the materia (but not the Alexandrite).

[DCILuther]

Thanks, that's just what I needed to know

[NaWA]

The information on determination infusions on the holy shield listed in this Spreadsheet isn't completely right.

Dunno if it has been listed before but correct ones are:
1. I 100%
2. I 75%
3. II 100%
4. II 75%
5. III 100%
6. III 75%
7. IV 100%
8. IV 75%
9. IV 50%

I was wondering myself about the success rates on determination on the curtana. Anyone has a list on that because i can't find any sure information about it anywhere.

[xjia]

Wanted to ask something,
1. can i buy Alexendrite before the Novus quest- using 200 allied seals ?
2. Can i Solo Mysterious map ?

Thanks

[Zaiken]

Wanted to ask something,
1. can i buy Alexendrite before the Novus quest- using 200 allied seals ?
2. Can i Solo Mysterious map ?

Thanks

1.) Yes
2.) Yes, with a Chocobo Healer. One that may give you trouble though is the Marboro, need a class that can stun the bad breath. And then there the Cyclop where it spawn bomb.

I have no trouble Solo every map with Warrior, Paladin and Chocobo healer.