Novus weapon upgrade system findings

[Ooshima]

Yeah, I used the translate to. But I'm still not sure what they are talking about, Tairasu-Knowth" and "Madaremujien-Knowth"? I don't want to start up the debate again, But they are talking about +9 points of something, Which is what was talked in last 5 pages or so..... I didn't know if it had anything to do with that or not.


Also trying to find out more about the Curtana Novus this guy finished today.

Those are Katanaka

タイラス・ノウス => Thyrus Novus

マダムレジエン・ノウス => this is actually SCH's Omnilex Novus. The Japanese name is not pronounced as Omnilex.

It is known that the 2 primary stats you choose to fuse in the sphere scroll will replace the original 2 on the Animus. However for healer weapons, accuracy happened to be a fixed 5th stat. So people are wondering what will happen if they meld accuracy onto the sphere scroll.

The rep checked with the devs, and was told that the accuracy will stack up. For example if you melded +1 accuracy onto the sphere scroll for Thyrus, which has 9 accuracy by default, Thyrus Novus will have +10 accuracy.

It was a question over the healer's weapons because as you know, from i100 onwards all healer gears gained an extra stat which is Accuracy. In the patch notes it says that at the end of the Novus upgrade, STR/DEX/VIT/MND/INT will be increased accordingly to befit an i110 weapon stat, however, the Accuracy stat will not change.

However you might want to double check with someone more proficient in Japanese as I'm not an advanced user so I might be wrong somewhere.

[Nekodar]

It was a question over the healer's weapons because as you know, from i100 onwards all healer gears gained an extra stat which is Accuracy. In the patch notes it says that at the end of the Novus upgrade, STR/DEX/VIT/MND/INT will be increased accordingly to befit an i110 weapon stat, however, the Accuracy stat will not change.

The quest itself says that "base accuracy will not be replaced" for Thyrus/Omnilex Animus... Not sure how people got confused by this as it's pretty clear from the text and scroll listed cap that any acc added to the scroll will be added to the base.

[Ooshima]

The quest itself says that "base accuracy will not be replaced" for Thyrus/Omnilex Animus... Not sure how people got confused by this as it's pretty clear from the text and scroll listed cap that any acc added to the scroll will be added to the base.

Well I think people just wanted some black and white confirmation?

But well.. melding accuracy for healers is interesting lol. But I feel it'd be wasted.

BTW I suppose you understand Japanese too? If so maybe check if my translation is correct.

[Arkista]

Found him http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...nt/detail/926/ His name is Artista Yun. He changed to WAR so you can't see what the stats are on it.

[StudReaver]

Im worried that when ppl start completing the novus weapons and it comes out that the stats are what they say they are, exactly how many ppl are gonna throw a fit because the novus smashes full soldiery weapons.
As a DRG I wasnt sure wether or not I wanted the liberator until I saw what novus brought but since the release of the patch I have absolutely no interest in the liberator since the novus is only a little bit lower in power than the high allagan spear.
There will be undoubtedly ppl who call BS to novus being better than the soldiery weapon but maybe thats the reward for the ppl that farmed the atma, grinded the myth, did the books, farmed more myth, grinded out the alexandrites and farmed/ bought the materia.

[Donjo]

Regarding the Completed Curtana Novus by Artista Jun: It's... *drumroll* Parry/Accuracy! Crud. Either way, holy geez that was fast.

Regarding the Japanese thread: Automatic translation isn't working ideally, but I think I can support the slightly more proficient translation(s) with a later post mentioning how the "hit" could be melded 35 times, 35 + 9 = 44, and that it makes sense that the number is 35 now. Numbers that support an association with Accuracy on a healer weapon.

Regarding the patch note example: There's no Determination or Piety on that Gae Bolg. It contains 75 points of 1:1 stats. Remember that Det is approximately 1:1.415 and Piety is approximately 1:1.34. Therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to disprove the theory that Determination and Piety are actually weighted on a Novus. The only thing that can prove or disprove it is a finished novus with Determination and/or Piety on it. No ifs, ands, or buts.

[Guevara]

[CUT]

Regarding the patch note example: There's no Determination or Piety on that Gae Bolg. It contains 75 points of 1:1 stats. Remember that Det is approximately 1:1.415 and Piety is approximately 1:1.34. Therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to disprove the theory that Determination and Piety are actually weighted on a Novus. The only thing that can prove or disprove it is a finished novus with Determination and/or Piety on it. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Isn't this really enough evidence?

[Shea]

Infuse 28 for Det Savage Might Grade IV on Sphere Scroll: Stardust Rod. Chance 80% Result: +1 Det
Infuse 29 for Det will require Savage Might Grade IV

Total Infusions on scroll: 29
+1/44 Crit
+28/31 Det

[Guevara]

If they really wanted DET to cap at 22 you would see 0/22 on the scroll.... a lot more user friendly than explaining somehow that 31 DET goes down to 22, imho

[Donjo]

If they really wanted DET to cap at 22 you would see 0/22 on the scroll.... a lot more user friendly than explaining somehow that 31 DET goes down to 22, imho

A few things here.

First, a weapon can hold 31(44 points of stat weight) Determination and 31 other points of stats. Alternatively, it can hold 33(44 points of stat weight) Piety and 31 of other stats. Every weapon allows us to add a maximum of up to 44 points of weight of any stat. The caps of 31 Determination and 33 Piety align with the 44 points every other stat gets. Thus, locking us at 22(23 for Piety) without the ability to have a weapon with 31 Determination would defy these existing caps of 44. As it stands, it might be possible to have 31 Determination and lower other stats instead to give Determination the 44 points of weight everything else caps at. If the stat weights do apply, this is why we wouldn't be directed to just meld 22 Determination materia to cap the stat.

Additionally, I'd like to ask which is more user friendly:

1. Visibly lower caps on infusions for stats we know are weighted, followed by a notification at the Novus upgrade that "You have weighted stats in your scroll. How would you like them to be distributed on your weapon?"(This is just a guess as to how it would work if the weights apply). The community is dismayed that they don't get weighted stats for free.

or

2. Every time you infuse a materia, the caps of every other stat change without warning; some more than others. The community is dismayed and may be literally afraid to infuse additional materia for fear of undesirable change.

I'd personally prefer 1. In 2-3 days of discussion, we've figured out all the details required to understand it. We know that either scenario A will happen or scenario B will happen, and we know what the results will be for either scenario. If the system aligned closer to 2, then it would be significantly confusing in a far more irritating manner. In my opinion, having the caps stay static with this questioning as to what Determination and Piety will do is more user friendly than the alternative.