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    I had a revelation after seeing that you can have more than 2 stats on your weapon.

    Instead of doing tier IVs, you could add in another stat to make up for it to reach 75 to finish it.

    Artemis Bow Novus could potentially be

    determination: 23
    critical hit rate: 33
    accuracy: 19

    instead of

    determination 31
    critical hit rate: 44

    This would save you from having to do tier IVs. You'd only have to do I, II and III. This build would still be superior to the unweathered rosenbogen, which is 31 critical hit rate and 44 skill speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    I had a revelation after seeing that you can have more than 2 stats on your weapon.

    Instead of doing tier IVs, you could add in another stat to make up for it to reach 75 to finish it.

    Artemis Bow Novus could potentially be

    determination: 23
    critical hit rate: 33
    accuracy: 19

    instead of

    determination 31
    critical hit rate: 44

    This would save you from having to do tier IVs. You'd only have to do I, II and III. This build would still be superior to the unweathered rosenbogen, which is 31 critical hit rate and 44 skill speed.
    A distribution that requires no or few tier IVs is likely what most people will go for, for materia where IV cost significantly more than III.
    When I checked the market board today for materia I myself need, III and IV had roughly the same cost though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekodar View Post
    A distribution that requires no or few tier IVs is likely what most people will go for, for materia where IV cost significantly more than III.
    When I checked the market board today for materia I myself need, III and IV had roughly the same cost though.
    Really? On my server, IV are like 200k and IIIs are 30k
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    Relics were only best really when it was relics only in FFXI then mythics were better, even for a short time empyearen were better then relics. The only thing SE needs to do to make the grind worth it for all players without even nerfing any of the quests is giving them a small special buff like FFXI did. Where you got a dmg multiplier at small %. Or give tanks a dmg reduction buff at small %. Though i'm perfectly fine with them as is. I like having weapons where not many ppl will own them. It's why I like pvp gear before wintrading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    I had a revelation after seeing that you can have more than 2 stats on your weapon.

    Instead of doing tier IVs, you could add in another stat to make up for it to reach 75 to finish it.

    Artemis Bow Novus could potentially be

    determination: 23
    critical hit rate: 33
    accuracy: 19

    instead of

    determination 31
    critical hit rate: 44

    This would save you from having to do tier IVs. You'd only have to do I, II and III. This build would still be superior to the unweathered rosenbogen, which is 31 critical hit rate and 44 skill speed.
    that set up is pretty good imo. gain det, lose some acc, get ride of skill speed(why bow?) and get the ever needed crit hit. as for meeting acc cap for things, the acc loss shouldnt hurt you too much, because you can get that from other gear.
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    It is easy to hit acc cap on BRD without taking weapon into account. Putting accuracy on relic is just gimping it, and I really don't think anyone would want to repeat this process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billzey View Post
    It is easy to hit acc cap on BRD without taking weapon into account. Putting accuracy on relic is just gimping it, and I really don't think anyone would want to repeat this process.
    I think the whole point is future-proofing your relic though, because once 2.4 hits HA weapons will no longer be BiS and there will likely be another relic upgrade and you don't want to get stuck with acc issues if the new sets of gear severely lack it.

    This is something I've felt conflicted about and I think I'll just save up all my alex and wait until 2.4 to see what stats I'll actually need before infusing any materia into my scroll. The weapon isn't BiS now anyway and is only a marginal increase over Rosenbogen even with full crit/dtr, so why bother with it now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by permbanned View Post
    I think the whole point is future-proofing your relic though, because once 2.4 hits HA weapons will no longer be BiS and there will likely be another relic upgrade and you don't want to get stuck with acc issues if the new sets of gear severely lack it.

    This is something I've felt conflicted about and I think I'll just save up all my alex and wait until 2.4 to see what stats I'll actually need before infusing any materia into my scroll. The weapon isn't BiS now anyway and is only a marginal increase over Rosenbogen even with full crit/dtr, so why bother with it now?
    Hmm... I like this idea, and by then you can spirit bond many many materia so you won't go broke in the process... The only problem I see with this idea is if the next part of the relic quest in 2.4 is kinda the same way, where your secondary stats disappear, and you make new ones to take place of your old ones during the new Startdust Rod Zodiac, and then the same on the Stardust Rod Ultra Super Street fighter III!!!
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    Shea Antell
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    Infuse 8(9) Det Grade 2 100% Chance +1 Det
    Infuse 9 (10) Det Grade2 100% Chance +1 Det

    #s in () for the total infuses, accidentaly did one crit =)
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    It's times like this I'm glad I hung on to most of my cracked materia.
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