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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithent View Post
    Healers will keep their accuracy because, for them, it's a bonus stat that helps to stop them missing hopelessly often, rather than being an important stat to max for jobs that expect to reliably hit things every time, I'd think.

    As for losing it on your weapon - it depends on the cap for what you're doing and the rest of your gear. It's important to have enough that you don't miss, but a waste to have any more than that.
    More or less; healer weapon accuracy stays put because it's an extra "free" stat so that healers can be slightly more effective when it comes to landing dots or DPSing in hard content (since they don't otherwise gear for accuracy). That accuracy doesn't affect the stat budget for the other stats on the item. Basically, you still have 75 other stat points to customize, even with the accuracy there.
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    That's why I'll also let other do the "theorycraft" about which stat combo is the best for each job....not going to waste time/gil doing a +44crit / +31det to later find out you gimped yourself and your DGN/MNK/BRD needed other mixture of melds.
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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Found some info on Reddit.... but I guess people haven't had the time to get more than a few Alex to check. But to me it seems like we will need 75+ Alex to get it done, Unless higher Tiers will give you more than one point per materia. If we do only get 1 point per meld then down the road SE needs to tie relics to end game and make them top tier. Because this is a huge grind.
    from what i can tell it is more time consuming then anything. if that is the case i do not think they should ever be made better then the latest weapons from the Binding Coil.
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    So I apologize if this question has been asked and answered....I can't read through this many pages of a thread while working at the same time :\

    I get how the secondary stat upgrades work with the sphere scrolls. I have been able to see enough about that to understand it. My question is this: I main BRD, and my secondary stats on Artemis Animus are Accuracy and Skill Speed. What if I want to change Skill Speed, but keep Accuracy? Do I have to use a scroll to rebuild Accuracy from scratch, do I get a scroll for Accuracy that starts at 40 (the # you attain for having Animus), or do I not even have to get a scroll for this stat and it will upgrade on its own after I am done upgrading the other stat of my choice?

    Thanks,
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  5. #245
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY View Post
    from what i can tell it is more time consuming then anything. if that is the case i do not think they should ever be made better then the latest weapons from the Binding Coil.
    Both are time consuming and with luck on your side it will be faster to get a high allagan weapon. With T9 weapons all you need to do is learn the fight and hope you have a good static to beat it. Relic is a huge time investment, I'm sure there will be a few people done with it by Saturday. But I don't see why SE can't at some point make both Relic and End Game weapons the same ilvl for future content.


    Quote Originally Posted by Prototype909 View Post
    This whole Atma/Animus/Novus thing has gone from simply being a ridiculous time-sink to now being an -extremely- ridiculous time and now gil sink.
    Don't be the one to go rush and try and buy up tons of materias from the MB. Need to start of with lower Tiers. So give it a week or so and the prices should drop. I would say I feel bad but some people on my server bought T4 materias for like 600k...
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    Last edited by Arkista; 06-06-2014 at 03:03 AM.

  6. #246
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    This whole Atma/Animus/Novus thing has gone from simply being a ridiculous time-sink to now being an -extremely- ridiculous time and now gil sink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCommon View Post
    So I apologize if this question has been asked and answered....I can't read through this many pages of a thread while working at the same time :\

    I get how the secondary stat upgrades work with the sphere scrolls. I have been able to see enough about that to understand it. My question is this: I main BRD, and my secondary stats on Artemis Animus are Accuracy and Skill Speed. What if I want to change Skill Speed, but keep Accuracy? Do I have to use a scroll to rebuild Accuracy from scratch, do I get a scroll for Accuracy that starts at 40 (the # you attain for having Animus), or do I not even have to get a scroll for this stat and it will upgrade on its own after I am done upgrading the other stat of my choice?

    Thanks,
    This is more ore less what I was asking also. It's the same with Curtana.. I like Parry and ACC for Curtana, but it sounds like you have to build them up from scratch again for some silly reason?
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  8. #248
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    Well, i've been at work all day. But after reading through this thread, it sounds like I'm shifting 100% of my attention to downing and farming T9. Cause eff this.
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    Player BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    . . .

    well there WILL be a point where Binding Coil will stop. at some point Bahamut will have to rear his ugly head and get defeated. i would suspect if Relic weapons ever surpass Allagan weapons it won't be till sometime after the final Coil. sure the Relic weapon is time consuming. but that is about it. the gil to buy a weapon with T3 materia slotted now is hardly even sizable anymore. plus the Atma thing will change in the future. so it takes a minimal amount of effort. huge time & some gil here and there.

    on the other hand just forming a static group alone can be difficult. and may take some time to get a reliable group on a reliable schedule. not everyone is good at that sort of thing. so most people will either scout out a recruit ad or wait for someone to pick them up. and some groups may only play once per week. but if the group works, beggars can't be choosers. and then you have to practice it enough to get it on farm status. PLUS every turn before it in the same Coil. and isn't there a weekly lock out?

    IMO, it takes more commitment, effort and skill to be farming the High Allagan weapons.
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    Last edited by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY; 06-06-2014 at 03:21 AM.

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    Anyone got a drop from a fate yet? Can you do level sync fates?
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