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    Player
    Ryuko's Avatar
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    Ryuko Kanzeon
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sounders View Post
    Let me guess full ilvl90 gear
    Nope. I once went in with a group and I was the only person even approaching full i90 (this was a loooooong time ago). Some people were using VIT melded accessories to boost Titan's HP, though. The most important thing when making big pulls with a SMN group is to make sure every mob is 'accounted' for. You can do this by watching to see which mob is initially unclaimed, and having your Titan-Egi attack it. As long as everyone picks a different target or two to attack, sustain should be enough to keep Titan-Egi up while you all AoE destroy them. For exceptional groups, one or two people can use Garuda-Egi instead... but there is a certain amount of safety in numbers with Titan-Egis. I haven't tried a 4x SMN group with the newer dungeons, but I personally can't think of a reason why it wouldn't work. You wouldn't be able to make huuuuuuge pulls like SRs of Brayflox, though, due to the way Egi aggro works. If you send your Egi to attack a group of mobs, it will hit the first mob and then the other unclaimed mobs will immediately march for the master of the Egi, unless your Egi directly hits them to grab aggro. This prevents the infamous "SMN pull" from FFXI, and also ensures that Egis aren't tooooooo powerful.
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    Madoka's Avatar
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    Character
    Ayukawa Madoka
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sounders View Post
    Let me guess full ilvl90 gear
    No, ~3k HP was all 4 SMN dungeons needed. Primals wanted one with around 4k to summon titan, or they could just switch to vit gear and not use spur.
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    Captain Crunch
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    They should add npc healers and tanks to fill in like on class/story quests. They'll suck in comparison to the real thing, but it'd work.
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Blizzard tried the no tank/healer content and it sucked. I'm voting we stick with what works but encourage tanks AND healers to run them more often. As a healer, I only run the high level dungeons because the rewards from them, time investment wise, is way better than the low level ones. Give me a reason to do them more often and I will, maybe a little help getting the new relic quests faster? Why do I say this? Because I am spending nearly all my time camping long spawn FATES and not healing dungeons!
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    Character
    Synth Istituto
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 85
    I have done a lot of the old dungeons and primal hard modes (minus titan) 4-8 man content. it worked out well for most things except for titan hard mode lol as we got thrashed really bad when he got the point of using plumes and mountain buster lol. It was bad but hilarious to see just how arrogant most SMN's can be in thinking that we can go all SMN with a lot of content lmfao. I would like to try more all DPS dungeon but as others stated previously, it will effect the game in a bad way in a long run sadly.
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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Leaving my SAM in Kugane
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    Character
    Raansu Omiyari
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Ugh no thanks. SWTOR did this with their bolster system and made the new flashpoints(dungeons) incredibly bland and boring. Their refusal to add in cross server on a dying game led them to design bolster and add in no role flashpoints (i got 4 tanks once...lol) which led to new level 50 flashpoints to be generic as hell.....BORING. No thanks.
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