Why can't we solo old content?

[Kuwagami]

because those other mmos didnt have every class on the same character.

In those games if you got gear from a low level dungeon, it was completely useless (save wow after the transmog patch)

this is not the case here.

Heh you're kidding me ?

One of them allowed you to equip every single piece of gear on every class. The only difference was the damage (weapon affinity by class) and the stat allocation (got stats every level to put on your favorite element, and stat caps before new points costing 2, 3 or more stat point were different per classes)

The others had usually only weapon restriction, with very few armor restriction. Because the drops were very bad, I give you that. But still you could do pretty much what you wanted.

On the other hand, I don't see why your point is relevant considering mine. It's just a if you said "I don't want you to be able to try solo T9 because you'll get T9 gear for all classes". (I really doubt anyone could solo any trial/raid anyway...)

I thought we were talking about dungeons ? Gear so irrelevant to end-game that it only serves GC's expert delivery purpose anyway ? Or maybe you're afraid that they'll get more GC seals than you do ?


Oh and btw, in those games, when you got gear "useless" because class or level restriction, you were able to sell it, something that FFXIV refused. because "people could buy their gear and it would not be fair" right ?

[Wildsprite]

And how well did that work for LOTRO? An MMO that actually did just that.

bad decisions can cause bad things to happen in the first place, just because it happened with LOTRO doesn't mean it will happen with any other game. I personally hated LOTRO anyway

replying to the post below me here because I apparently reached my limit ~rolls eyes~

You used to be able to co-op Toto-rak in 1.0, it was one of the better ways to earn seals. I don't see a problem allowing solo dungeon runs, but then I also see the problem. Every active dungeon is one less instance in the queue, and if they let you solo as a 50 then noone else would be able to join in. If too many people steal instances for solo escapades you get what happened in the first month of 2.0. It's up to Square, really, to determine if the risk to instance server demand is worth it.

a solution to this would be to add seperate servers for solo DF and slowly add the dungeons to those. ofcourse they would end up with a mess where people would have to queue up and wait but it would still be better than overcrouding the regular DF servers and causing instabilities in those

[Gilraen]

You used to be able to co-op Toto-rak in 1.0, it was one of the better ways to earn seals. I don't see a problem allowing solo dungeon runs, but then I also see the problem. Every active dungeon is one less instance in the queue, and if they let you solo as a 50 then noone else would be able to join in. If too many people steal instances for solo escapades you get what happened in the first month of 2.0. It's up to Square, really, to determine if the risk to instance server demand is worth it.

[Cupcake66]

You used to be able to co-op Toto-rak in 1.0, it was one of the better ways to earn seals. I don't see a problem allowing solo dungeon runs, but then I also see the problem. Every active dungeon is one less instance in the queue, and if they let you solo as a 50 then noone else would be able to join in. If too many people steal instances for solo escapades you get what happened in the first month of 2.0. It's up to Square, really, to determine if the risk to instance server demand is worth it.

That's bad but the truth

[Dashuto]

I am positive the gillies will find a way to abuse this, just like the beetles in WP for a while.

[Chihaya]

I have all 3 sets from Brayflox farmed with the current system. If you want the gear it is possible to farm it the way it is now.

Now if you want to solo the dungeons with the level cap on, be my guest, no problem with that. You can probably solo a few of the dungeon with the level cap, but it'll take you awhile.


But it seems to me what you are asking for is to be able to blow through the dungeon at Lv50 (and even mentioned carrying people through it), I think this is ridiculous.

This is a MMO, I enjoy playing with others... there's a lot of single player games out there if you want to play by yourself. I don't care what WoW is like, this is not WoW.

For every experienced tank or healer that decides to blow through the dungeon by themselves, that's 1 less tank/healer to help new players through the dungeon. Game would be some what unattractive to new players as they now would have to either out level the dungeon to solo it themselves or wait for hours in the limited pool of players queuing legitimately as it is much easier just to blow through it on a high level. Why even bother doing it as low level? This further removes the difficulty of the dungeon (not that they are that hard in the first place) and making all low level content worthless and boring for new/old players alike. Why even try to learn the mechanics or hell, learn how to play your job at low level when your friend can just power level you through it all.

It also cheapens the value of the gear, everyone with a high level can just blow through the dungeon and get the gear, they might well just add an NPC that sells you all the gear or hand it to you on a silver platter. It is not the dungeon you want, you don't give a damn about the dungeon, you just want the gear.

[jars]

of course not, by nice try on twisting my words to say what I didnt.

you have levi weapons for everything, great. It wasnt a faceroll to get them.

so lets replace levi weapons with ct or coil 1 gear, which is faceroll when at ilevel 97. should I not be allowed to get gear for other jobs by running it as my main class too? do you have a burning hatred of greed parties?

[Ryihito]

do you know what you sound like?

Do you? Cos you sound like a complete douche who thinks he is right all the time. Lol.

[ApolloGenX]

They rehash content too much for this... you never know when you will be forced to re-run that level 20 dungeon for the 5000th time to get the next relic.

PS - EQ had dungeons you could farm gear... it was a huge source of fun... even if it was for alts or selling. It was certainly a social element alongside xp groups.

I guess it is different here because everything is instanced.

[Bluevann]

I just think the real reason is it's still way too early to call anything in this game "old content".