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  1. #21
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    Alenore's Avatar
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    Alenore Llohen
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    What was the magic defense difference between your whm and your drg? It felt like it was more than 10% to me but it could be confirmation bias or variance in megaflare damage.

    I mean, it's not a problem that's really relevant enough to impede progress but taking extra damages annoying at times.
    357 as DRG, 513 as WHM (without protect on both). WHM is less geared, but the difference in mdef must be around 50 at best. You may count something like 13% instead of 10.
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    Yan Dere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenore View Post
    357 as DRG, 513 as WHM (without protect on both). WHM is less geared, but the difference in mdef must be around 50 at best. You may count something like 13% instead of 10.
    Somethings off with your numbers.

    I'd have 313 with full i100 left side and a full i100 left side whm would have 538. The difference would be like 69 more or something like that or like 14.4~%.
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    Alenore Llohen
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    Somethings off with your numbers.

    I'd have 313 with full i100 left side and a full i100 left side whm would have 538. The difference would be like 69 more or something like that or like 14.4~%.
    My bad, I did take the number with protect on, on DRG -_-'
    311 and 513. Though, I was talking about the difference between my WHM and a i100 or so WHM. Apparently, it's only 25 more (538 - 513). So it must be roughly 12%, at best.

    Here's screenshots that to prove I'm not a full retard @@
    WHM : http://cl.ly/image/2b3Q161K040W
    DRG : http://cl.ly/image/3q1x3K2r443v
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    Last edited by Alenore; 06-08-2014 at 03:20 AM.

  4. #24
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    Baal Mirtaq
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Its easy to compare, assuming equal item lvl, the mage would have just as much mag def as the drg would have phy def and vice versa.

    So if the drg had i83 his mag def would be 287.
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  5. #25
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    Overlord Rikkustrife
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    my crafting jobs have higher magic defense than my drg at ilvl 97

    my armourer has 466 magic defense, drg has 308
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  6. #26
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    Vicky Vixen
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    Honestly, as an i100 DRG in T9, I have no idea what you're talking about. Unshielded, Moggle's meteor never pushes me below 1700, meteors do 630 damage to me and 610 to everyone else, we have second wind, allagan field on me won't hurt anyone if I get just as much shielding as anyone else, and there are absolutely no conditions where this has any effect. I've read this whole thread going "what?" because I've absolutely never noticed this having any effect at all. A bigger problem is BLMs having as much Pdef as we have Mdef, but much less hp. Honestly, if this tiny effect is having such impact on your group, there's nothing to say about it other than you're a bad dragoon.
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  7. #27
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    Alise Reinhart
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    What about keep this m-def weak point remain, but make it do higher dps than Monk instead? should be high risk, high return right?
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    Alcyon Eldara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alise View Post
    What about keep this m-def weak point remain, but make it do higher dps than Monk instead? should be high risk, high return right?
    No.

    STOP ASKING "BUFF MY CLASS, I DESERVE IT". DRG buffs BRD damage, period. If DRG was dealing more damage than MNK, there would be no single reason to use a MNK at all.
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    Black Thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcyon1 View Post
    No.

    STOP ASKING "BUFF MY CLASS, I DESERVE IT". DRG buffs BRD damage, period. If DRG was dealing more damage than MNK, there would be no single reason to use a MNK at all.
    Stop putting words in other people's mouths.
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    Alenore Llohen
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought View Post
    Stop putting words in other people's mouths.
    Look at his quote. "buff my dps because i'm a fragile little thing so I deserve it".
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