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    Quote Originally Posted by Punypunk View Post
    Loldrgs need to remain as loldrgs or the dps circus will lose its clown.
    I think you may have summed up this community pretty succinctly here.
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    Alenore Llohen
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    The difference in magical damage received between a DRG and a WHM is roughly 10%. Tested it on 500 hits on water elementals in Urth's Gift. (Average of 127.5 on WHM and 141.66 on DRG. -10% damages on WHM)

    It's not really a liability but you do require extra heals, especially after megaflare. The cure 3 isn't going to top you off. I also died with 5.8k hp and stoneskin+succor to megaflare because I was out of sacred soil and didnt think I'd die when people are living with 4.xk hps.
    Let's say a skill is enough to kill you in one shot (haven't tried T9, can't say!), so... 6k damages?
    A DRG would receive 6k while a WHM would receive around 5k4. You might not survive, but I'm pretty positive he wouldn't either, because of his lower max HP.

    If he was in Sacred Soil, which grants an additional 10% damage reduction, the WHM would only receive around 4860, and thus might survive. Now if you were in Sacred Soil, you'd receive only 5400 and survive too. Barely, but hey, alive is alive.

    Also, we have Second Wind for most of these cases (ohai self heal for ~1k), and could use X-Potion/Hi-elixir. A nice mantra at the right moment could help as well.

    The fact that some dragoon cleared T9 tells me it's not such a big problem. The only problem would be if you got one shotted and had no way to survive, which is not the case.
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    Yan Dere
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenore View Post
    The difference in magical damage received between a DRG and a WHM is roughly 10%. Tested it on 500 hits on water elementals in Urth's Gift. (Average of 127.5 on WHM and 141.66 on DRG. -10% damages on WHM)

    The fact that some dragoon cleared T9 tells me it's not such a big problem. The only problem would be if you got one shotted and had no way to survive, which is not the case.
    What was the magic defense difference between your whm and your drg? It felt like it was more than 10% to me but it could be confirmation bias or variance in megaflare damage.

    I mean, it's not a problem that's really relevant enough to impede progress but taking extra damages annoying at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    What was the magic defense difference between your whm and your drg? It felt like it was more than 10% to me but it could be confirmation bias or variance in megaflare damage.

    I mean, it's not a problem that's really relevant enough to impede progress but taking extra damages annoying at times.
    357 as DRG, 513 as WHM (without protect on both). WHM is less geared, but the difference in mdef must be around 50 at best. You may count something like 13% instead of 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenore View Post
    357 as DRG, 513 as WHM (without protect on both). WHM is less geared, but the difference in mdef must be around 50 at best. You may count something like 13% instead of 10.
    Somethings off with your numbers.

    I'd have 313 with full i100 left side and a full i100 left side whm would have 538. The difference would be like 69 more or something like that or like 14.4~%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickyguo View Post
    Somethings off with your numbers.

    I'd have 313 with full i100 left side and a full i100 left side whm would have 538. The difference would be like 69 more or something like that or like 14.4~%.
    My bad, I did take the number with protect on, on DRG -_-'
    311 and 513. Though, I was talking about the difference between my WHM and a i100 or so WHM. Apparently, it's only 25 more (538 - 513). So it must be roughly 12%, at best.

    Here's screenshots that to prove I'm not a full retard @@
    WHM : http://cl.ly/image/2b3Q161K040W
    DRG : http://cl.ly/image/3q1x3K2r443v
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    Last edited by Alenore; 06-08-2014 at 03:20 AM.