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  1. #1
    Player
    Dovaz's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Dovaz Devio
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60

    DRG needs a buff, and not the way everyone else is whining about!

    Im a T9 win DRG my fellow dps in my static are MNK/BRD/SMN

    Dragoon is becoming LOLDRG again, even in SE's eyes shown in Titan 16-bit video the development team made, very simple reason for this that people overlook.

    DRG Mdef is terrible and the compensation of Pdef doesn't matter in end game content. Most unavoidable aoe are magic based. DRG takes larger amounts of damage from them to the point where healers have to give special attention to them

    Ex 1: T9 meteors. I take 200-400 extra damage per meteor at max distance than the other DPS. Vs 6 meteor drop phase, this will kill me but not other dps

    2: T9 Mega Flare. This hits for 6k-6.7k magic damage vs the others taking 5k-5.5k roughly. I require WHM stoneskin and adlo to survive with 500-1000 hp depending on adlo crit with my 5700 hp. Where the others just need a succor

    This means DRG is a +% chance liability as a floor mop a bad choice to take in a party. Give us Mdef, lower Pdef if needed, or an ability for Mdef
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    Belphegor Acul
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    True story. It can get ridiculous when a DRG gets Allagan field in T8; they require so much more needed protection in a short amount of time.
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    Crazy Pluto
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    Excalibur
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by BelphegorAcul View Post
    True story. It can get ridiculous when a DRG gets Allagan field in T8; they require so much more needed protection in a short amount of time.
    This is so true if the drg gets it at the wrong time it's very hard on the healers and a lot of the time its a wipe.
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    Kletian Drowa
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    I've gotten killed by Moogle EX meteor from full life while standing in Sacred Soil as a Drg when everyone else in the party survived. And blood for blood wasn't active either. Maybe we could turn Keen Flurry from parry into a raw Damaged reduced ability?
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    Lewena Yaeger
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 50
    Didn't know about this but it would be an interesting buff for you.
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    Chione Tilaeris
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    Until this thread I honestly had no idea. I main drg in second coil now, and my group hasn't made it to t9 yet but this makes me concerned that I'll be a liability when we get there now simply by job design. At first I thought, oh it can't be -that- bad can it? So I had my sister, who plays bard from time to time, check the m.defense on her i86 bard. She has 469 m.def compared to my i98 DRG's 362.

    That is pretty alarming.
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    Kicoe Vashai
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 70
    My healer never considered this as a liability in T9 or gave me special attention. Overall it isn't as bad as you described (dying to six meteor drops etc).
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    Character
    Yan Dere
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kicoe View Post
    My healer never considered this as a liability in T9 or gave me special attention. Overall it isn't as bad as you described (dying to six meteor drops etc).
    It's not really a liability but you do require extra heals, especially after megaflare. The cure 3 isn't going to top you off. I also died with 5.8k hp and stoneskin+succor to megaflare because I was out of sacred soil and didnt think I'd die when people are living with 4.xk hps.
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    Yo Ho
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    Carbuncle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Careful there OP, there are many out there who find the slightest suggestion of a buff to loldrg a form of blasphemy. Loldrgs need to remain as loldrgs or the dps circus will lose its clown.

    Jokes aside, here is a recent and relevant complaint on the JP DPS forum.

    The most interesting fact is that DRG's mdef is lower than that of a crafter's or gatherer's. Loldrg indeed.
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    Shiro Steve
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    Brynhildr
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    Lancer Lv 60
    I know, When I first heard this way back I couldn't believe it. My static monk and I had a good laugh about how I'm stranding there in glowing scale mail that repels less damage than his pajamas.
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