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  1. #31
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    Arkista's Avatar
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
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    Sounds like someone should have found a new LS.......
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  2. #32
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    Welsper59's Avatar
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    Eros Maxima
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
    If it's different, then its not a dynamis type fight. Dynamis wasnt fun, it was repetitive, it was mostly farming trash mobs, it wasnt an 'open ended dungeon' it was just a recycled existing zone with boring mob placement compared to the rest of the game. Even the bosses weren't that interesting, most of them were just stronger versions of the normal mobs, or they had like one special mechanic you had to be aware of.

    The 'a lot of people working together' wasn't even that either. It was just a bunch of bodies spamming their strongest spell, or swinging until they got the tp to use their strongest weapon skill, or the thief just swinging at stuff for treasure hunter. The fights in XIV at least DO require people to work together for the mechanics, and the reason we dont have large scale content like that is because, quite simply, people wouldnt be able to work together like the way people seemed to think it was in XI. CT is proof of that. The only reason most people ever did dynamis in XI was for the gear years later because the way that game functioned, every new piece of gear was such a small upgrade that we were still using lvl 50 gear at 75, and years after it was first implemented, just so we could switch it in for 2 seconds in a macro.

    It's nostalgia, it wasnt fun. I enjoyed it during its time but no, going back to that isnt the way. By all means make suggestions for large scale open dungeons, but dont compare it to old, grindy, dated content from a game that was released a decade ago.

    Dynamis only became fun after the changes that took away the zone reservations and you DIDN'T have to follow a one way predictable path or take in a huge group of people you didnt necessarily even like. Despite it being a wide open zone, thats what everyone did, they followed the same path every week because it was the most profitable/they needed to take out certain bosses and work their way through. Anything 'open' about it was just an illusion.
    I hope folks realize that, in this context, EVERYTHING is an "illusion" once a cookie cutter or "best" method/setup is found. We still have the option to go about things the way we want, but it's not exactly the "best" way to do it. Saying something like "Anything 'open' about it was just an illusion" is like saying "humans need oxygen to breathe". It's a Captain Obvious argument.

    I strongly disagree with your outlook on how Dynamis worked. The fact you ignore the existence of sleep/stun teams in original Dynamis is proof that you either never did anything but a DPS role or you performed those extra duties very poorly. And yes, you did need those side teams. So if you were say... a SAM or some generic DPS, then yeah, of course it's just a bunch of bodies spamming their strongest stuff. Just like it is here and for every other game that you don't have to worry about additional duties.

    Nostalgia does have an influence on a lot of things, but if you ignore perspective, you're just ignorant. A lot of times, when people relate one thing to another, they're often referring to concepts about it and not the literal/exact content itself. In fact, it often includes themes or artistic design. Most of us that played while Dynamis was endgame relevant can probably recall how it felt to see such an eerie and dangerous zone, much less it being the very towns that you safely frequented. What happened to the friendly NPCs? Did anything about the environment change? Can we go into certain areas that we could in the normal zone? Etc. Things that make the player use their imagination... a concept that many developers fail to take advantage of these days.
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  3. #33
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHajime View Post
    Lol it's pretty sad that ppl can't say they miss something about ffxi with out ppl saying go back and play. Idc who you are if you played ffxi you're gonna miss something about it.
    It really is quite sad :/ I loved XI, and would go back to pre-abyssea XI in a heartbeat. And that's not just nostalgia talking. Only reason I quit was because I started a family, and couldn't manage to find the time to play games for several years.

    People fail to realize that it is possible to enjoy XIV while appreciating what XI had to offer. XI did so many things right, but heaven forbid you mention it, because it's now XIV or GTFO.
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 06-05-2014 at 06:55 AM.

  4. #34
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    Amberion Eurelt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    It really is quite sad :/ I loved XI, and would go back to pre-abyssea XI in a heartbeat.
    I'm the same. Not sure how I would like to redo my character if I had to though.
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  5. #35
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    Lord Darksnakex
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    Durandal
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    I have to say that I would go back to pre-abyssea XI in a heartbeat too.
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  6. #36
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    Ikeda Komori
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by SavageWolf View Post
    FFXI is still up and running. Maybe you should re-subscribe?
    FFXI is no where near being the same game people used to love. You can try that line again if you can make a time machine to take people back to a time before the Abyssea update.
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  7. #37
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    Soi Fong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    It really is quite sad :/ I loved XI, and would go back to pre-abyssea XI in a heartbeat. And that's not just nostalgia talking. Only reason I quit was because I started a family, and couldn't manage to find the time to play games for several years.

    People fail to realize that it is possible to enjoy XIV while appreciating what XI had to offer. XI did so many things right, but heaven forbid you mention it, because it's now XIV or GTFO.
    FFXIV or GTFO!
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  8. #38
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    Naelle's Avatar
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    Robin Gunn
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 80
    They said we'll be able to take the full 24 premade in CT2 so there's that...
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  9. #39
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    Lumia Goldenheart
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Pre-Abyssea FFXI was amazing. Abyssea became the downfall for this game, however. It completely removed any need for large group cooperative play and thusly reduced much of the social interaction. On top of that, the focus changed from developing your job slowly, to racing to max level and getting the best gear.

    The current version of 14 I feel is on the same level as FF11-postAbyssea. Large group play is non-existent. Not much social interaction. And it feels like our goal is to race to 50 and get the best gear, and if some better gear comes out, then we gotta get that new gear because our old best gear is now crap. And if we can't get it immediately.. then I hate it and /ragequit...

    Some days I wish I could go back to 1.0... People were social... we had our "corner" somewhere in Ul'dah where when we weren't doing anything, we'd all get together and hang out. We did stuff together.. we didn't care how fast we leveled. Level 50 Grand Company gear was awesome! People who got darklight were amazing!

    Now it's become if you aren't ilvl 9001, then yur just shit.
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  10. #40
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    Naelle's Avatar
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    Robin Gunn
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 80
    I miss standing around in Ul'dah with everyone... :/



    Happiest day of my 1.0 life standing around with my new moogle axe in my warrior AF.
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