Training Raids

[julliz]

i would much rather have them introduce "training raids" in guildhests with exp and gil rewards. if they can start utilizing 8-man guildhests which begin to introduce basic raid mechanics for current raid content (as it did for basic party content) then it would possibly get more people to do them as well as create a larger library of them. and since guildhests are not locked content, you can do them a number of times with your group.

[Welsper59]

i would much rather have them introduce "training raids" in guildhests with exp and gil rewards. if they can start utilizing 8-man guildhests which begin to introduce basic raid mechanics for current raid content (as it did for basic party content) then it would possibly get more people to do them as well as create a larger library of them. and since guildhests are not locked content, you can do them a number of times with your group.

This would work in the days of old. Training raids today, in general, I'd say the majority of people don't have the patience or resolve to do them. Be it a feeling of inferiority or a feeling that it's a waste of time. In both cases, they would rather tough it out to prove they can learn something difficult, regardless of if they're successful or not. IMO that's a good resolve to have, to want to tough it out until you can win, but it usually doesn't work out that way after a while.

Basically, if it's for an endgame related purpose, people would rather tough out the actual content because there's that sought-after end reward. Some groups would take advantage of such a guildhest if it were available, but not many...

[SirEdeonX]

The gear seems overkill... Also probably makes Crystal Tower completely redundant; Crystal Tower was meant for the "I can't do Coil" crowd, but if there is an easy Coil with better gear? Yeah, that's broken.

Unfortunately Crystal Tower is already broken. The rewards are kind of useless. So I guess CT would need to be as good and challenging as coil.

Actually, if it's about training, couldn't you just not win? Did they change the lockout for Coil 2 so that you get locked out after entering rather than winning or something?

You always got locked out after entering. Which means that if I beat t6 and entered t7, I cannot help anyone on t6. And I get that, because SE didn't want FCs selling runs. Same reason coil can't have a loot lock out, because FCs would just run it til the drop they want dropped.

For your suggestion to work, they should be the same dungeon mechanics, without rewards and without cooldown. Purely for practicing. I could already see people ditching Turn1~5 and normal 6~9 just going for that broken itl95 gear lol.

Yeah maybe having the exact same mechanics would work. Or just be a bit more forgiving. As for that broken ilvl 95 gear, the training grounds could and should have the same requirements as the raid itself. So you'd need t5 to access it.

[kukurumei]

No i think the problem is resource management.

If you have time to make a training raid, that is not going to real raid.

Content is content is content. It's logic at its finest. If you're going to make content, make it worthwhile, because otherwise, you're wasting resources.

[Sapphic]

Or train them on the real deal

And Turn 6 without the vines would be as usefull as training for t7 without the shrieks XD