Current State of End-Game Contents - A Blog Post from A Japanese Player

[LunaHoshino]

So, the Final Coil bosses get stronger when people die? They do different things? They can be beaten in more then just one way? You don't all wipe if you do something wrong?

In T10, if someone dies or you mess up a mechanic, the boss gets a stack that increases the damage done by the unavoidable AoE that he does at the end of every add phase. The boss also gains stacks during the add phase, so if you don't kill the adds fast enough, you can end up with a wipe.

The final phase has three different sets of mechanics that happen at random, each one requiring a different method of handling them. There's a loose pattern in the sense that you won't get two Wild Charge combos in a row, but other than that, there's no set rotation for them.

I have yet to try T11 for myself, but the tethers in that fight are also random. How you deal with them depends on what tether combos you get.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

In T10, if someone dies or you mess up a mechanic, the boss gets a stack that increases the damage done by the unavoidable AoE that he does at the end of every add phase. The boss also gains stacks during the add phase, so if you don't kill the adds fast enough, you can end up with a wipe.

The final phase also has three different sets of mechanics that happen at random, each one requiring a different method of handling them. There's a loose pattern in the sense that you won't get two Wild Charges combos in a row, but other than that, there's no set rotation for them..

That isn't a buff like I described, that is simply someone missing the script. That usually means you wipe, its not dynamic. It happened because someone didn't follow the script. Its the same as if you didn't kill the adds in Striking Tree, if you don't we all die.

[LunaHoshino]

That isn't a buff like I described, that is simply someone missing the script. That usually means you wipe, its not dynamic. It happened because someone didn't follow the script. Its the same as if you didn't kill the adds in Striking Tree, if you don't we all die.

T10 is clearable even if a few deaths happen. It just makes the fight more difficult.

[Sapphic]

That isn't a buff like I described, that is simply someone missing the script. That usually means you wipe, its not dynamic. It happened because someone didn't follow the script. Its the same as if you didn't kill the adds in Striking Tree, if you don't we all die.

It's exactly what you said.

What about a buff where every time someone dies in the raid, the boss deals more damage?

I am discussing what I think, it doesn't matter if I had "NO EXPERIENCE", i'm entitled to my opinion as much as you are. However, this remains: its a FORUM!

Of course you are. Problem is you are basing your posts as fact based on zero experience of what you are trying to preach about. Reading other posts and taking those as gospel just because they fall into your misconstrued idealism of what you think endgame is like whilst arguing contrary to those who have cleared all endgame content is asinine.

You have no experience to back up your false claims thus making them invalid outside of your own ego.

If its not, then why don't you go away? If it is how you say: then your words mean absolutely nothing here.

You don't bring anymore to the discussion from what i've seen.

I think you should look in the mirror before accusing someone else of that.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Calling you names? Now you just make up things too. The way you're running this is like you read a critique's review of a film without ever watching it, and go around basing said review as your own opinion. You don't even know what the film is like for yourself. It's the same concept here, you have no experience and so your opinion isn't your own. You may not like scripted fights, ok, that is your opinion, but it isn't going to change, so the stance of this game not being for you is the same. I know what this forum is, and I know the topic, however you do act like you know it all, even if you haven't said it bluntly, when really you haven't done anything in the game yet.

If its not, then why don't you go away? If it is how you say: then your words mean absolutely nothing here.

You don't bring anymore to the discussion from what i've seen.

[Mugiawara]

If its not, then why don't you go away? If it is how you say: then your words mean absolutely nothing here.

You don't bring anymore to the discussion from what i've seen.

I keep feeding because I can't believe your posts...
Your opinions are complete moot because you have no personal experience.
Me: I like pie!
You: I hate pie! Pie should be changed! Note: I never had pie in my life, but it should be changed in every way, remove pie, or make it taste different, look and smell different.
Also, you try hard to weave this game into your personal likings IE. WoW or Everquest or whatever games you played then promptly complain about near all aspects of this game.
Everyone else is making suggestions based on what they have done and wanting some new, or like how the systems works.
It makes absolute no sense to attack people because you hate how this game works, and the kicker of it all: YOU DON'T EVEN PLAY THE CONTENT to be making any arguments.
You bring not much into the discussion because you have not done the content to discuss anything.

As I said, its all mechanics driven. Its all about the patterns. I for one dislike that kind of content so I don't do it, I don't care if I "cleared" it because its not really an achievement to me.

This is untrue, most of everything in this game is "Do A,B and C, to get X going, then repeat until D,E, F starts then start to Y, repeat, you may get some QRS's here too." You've done it all game.
Some reason I guess you wanna be in a big topic, to yet again, rant and rave about mechanic's that you don't know about.
I would not mind something new, but I fear this community is not 100% prepared, I have not done coil past T7 so I have nothing to say there.
Also you think Steps is hard so I dunno why you're even saying anything lol.

[Veqluna]

I keep feeding because I can't believe your posts...
Your opinions are complete moot because you have no personal experience.
Me: I like pie!
You: I hate pie! Pie should be changed! Note: I never had pie in my life, but it should be changed in every way, remove pie, or make it taste different, look and smell different.
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Oh my
very accurate example xD

[Nektulos-Tuor]

I keep feeding because I can't believe your posts...
Your opinions are complete moot because you have no personal experience.
Me: I like pie!
You: I hate pie! Pie should be changed! Note: I never had pie in my life, but it should be changed in every way, remove pie, or make it taste different, look and smell different.
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Thats not really true, there is a lot of pie thrown at you in the entire game. Coils do not equal every single part of the game, lots of the game's mechanics are "You must do this, or something bad happens." I have done a lot of the extreme modes. They are really fun fights!

A lot of low level mechanics are the same.

[Gardes]

Thats not really true, there is a lot of pie thrown at you in the entire game. Coils do not equal every single part of the game, lots of the game's mechanics are "You must do this, or something bad happens." I have done a lot of the extreme modes. They are really fun fights!

A lot of low level mechanics are the same.

What's your point? What's the point of adding mechanics to a tank and spank fight when you can just ignore the mechanics and isn't punished for it? What's even the point of designing a mechanic that isnt just stepping out of aoes with "you must do this, or nothing bad happens or whatever, I don't care"?

[LunaHoshino]

I have done a lot of the extreme modes. They are really fun fights!

The extreme Primals are exactly the same as Coil as far as scripted mechanics go. Heck, Titan EX is literally the most scripted fight in the entire game: he will ALWAYS perform his moves in the exact same rotation every single time with absolutely no variation whatsoever. The only one that is truly random is Mog EX, and look at how many people hate that fight.