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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaHoshino View Post
    There are bosses like that in Final Coil, which you would know if you actually did any of this content that you claim to know so much about.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    I for one dislike that kind of content so I don't do it, I don't care if I "cleared" it
    What? I don't remember saying anything of the sort.

    I am speaking of mostly the entire game, not a very few fights.

    But - I don't remember saying I claimed to know the fights. I can't stand scripts or acting. I simply know what i've read and been told from most of the thread, I guess those people and the OP are all just silly liars?

    So, the Final Coil bosses get stronger when people die? They do different things? They can be beaten in more then just one way? You don't all wipe if you do something wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    What? I don't remember saying anything of the sort.

    I am speaking of mostly the entire game, not a very few fights.

    But - I don't remember saying I claimed to know the fights. I can't stand scripts or acting. I simply know what i've read and been told from most of the thread, I guess those people and the OP are all just silly liars?

    So, the Final Coil bosses get stronger when people die? They do different things? They can be beaten in more then just one way? You don't all wipe if you do something wrong?
    How about when you try to argue something, you have your own experience to throw in there, not run off what you read in a book so to speak. All you ever do is complain, just stop and quit the game already, it isn't for you. If not, go do these fights then come back with your own view points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyTribal View Post
    How about when you try to argue something, you have your own experience to throw in there, not run off what you read in a book so to speak. All you ever do is complain, just stop and quit the game already, it isn't for you. If not, go do these fights then come back with your own view points.
    Excuse me:

    "Forum - Top - English - Forums - Community - General Discussion - Current State of End-Game Contents"

    This is the forum.
    This is the discussion.

    I am discussing what I think, it doesn't matter if I had "NO EXPERIENCE", i'm entitled to my opinion as much as you are. However, this remains: its a FORUM!

    I am attempting to address my concerns with the game, as the OP is.

    If you can't understand that, then why don't you stop posting? All you do is troll, and derail topics, why don't you play the game? Its obviously fine for you, this topic isn't for you. Its for people who want to discuss things about the game.

    Do you understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyTribal View Post
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    Its sad, because I see you following around every thread calling me names and attempting to derail my discussion. IS BORDERLINE harassment. Please leave me alone, and thank you.

    Do you not have anything better to do? How about you listen to yourself for a second: If the game is so perfect - why are you here? Play the game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Its sad, because I see you following around every thread calling me names and attempting to derail my discussion. IS BORDERLINE harassment. Please leave me alone, and thank you.
    Calling you names? Now you just make up things too. The way you're running this is like you read a critique's review of a film without ever watching it, and go around basing said review as your own opinion. You don't even know what the film is like for yourself. It's the same concept here, you have no experience and so your opinion isn't your own. You may not like scripted fights, ok, that is your opinion, but it isn't going to change, so the stance of this game not being for you is the same. I know what this forum is, and I know the topic, however you do act like you know it all, even if you haven't said it bluntly, when really you haven't done anything in the game yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    So, the Final Coil bosses get stronger when people die? They do different things? They can be beaten in more then just one way? You don't all wipe if you do something wrong?
    In T10, if someone dies or you mess up a mechanic, the boss gets a stack that increases the damage done by the unavoidable AoE that he does at the end of every add phase. The boss also gains stacks during the add phase, so if you don't kill the adds fast enough, you can end up with a wipe.

    The final phase has three different sets of mechanics that happen at random, each one requiring a different method of handling them. There's a loose pattern in the sense that you won't get two Wild Charge combos in a row, but other than that, there's no set rotation for them.

    I have yet to try T11 for myself, but the tethers in that fight are also random. How you deal with them depends on what tether combos you get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaHoshino View Post
    In T10, if someone dies or you mess up a mechanic, the boss gets a stack that increases the damage done by the unavoidable AoE that he does at the end of every add phase. The boss also gains stacks during the add phase, so if you don't kill the adds fast enough, you can end up with a wipe.

    The final phase also has three different sets of mechanics that happen at random, each one requiring a different method of handling them. There's a loose pattern in the sense that you won't get two Wild Charges combos in a row, but other than that, there's no set rotation for them..
    That isn't a buff like I described, that is simply someone missing the script. That usually means you wipe, its not dynamic. It happened because someone didn't follow the script. Its the same as if you didn't kill the adds in Striking Tree, if you don't we all die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    That isn't a buff like I described, that is simply someone missing the script. That usually means you wipe, its not dynamic. It happened because someone didn't follow the script. Its the same as if you didn't kill the adds in Striking Tree, if you don't we all die.
    T10 is clearable even if a few deaths happen. It just makes the fight more difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    That isn't a buff like I described, that is simply someone missing the script. That usually means you wipe, its not dynamic. It happened because someone didn't follow the script. Its the same as if you didn't kill the adds in Striking Tree, if you don't we all die.
    It's exactly what you said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    What about a buff where every time someone dies in the raid, the boss deals more damage?
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    I am discussing what I think, it doesn't matter if I had "NO EXPERIENCE", i'm entitled to my opinion as much as you are. However, this remains: its a FORUM!
    Of course you are. Problem is you are basing your posts as fact based on zero experience of what you are trying to preach about. Reading other posts and taking those as gospel just because they fall into your misconstrued idealism of what you think endgame is like whilst arguing contrary to those who have cleared all endgame content is asinine.

    You have no experience to back up your false claims thus making them invalid outside of your own ego.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    If its not, then why don't you go away? If it is how you say: then your words mean absolutely nothing here.

    You don't bring anymore to the discussion from what i've seen.
    I think you should look in the mirror before accusing someone else of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyTribal View Post
    Calling you names? Now you just make up things too. The way you're running this is like you read a critique's review of a film without ever watching it, and go around basing said review as your own opinion. You don't even know what the film is like for yourself. It's the same concept here, you have no experience and so your opinion isn't your own. You may not like scripted fights, ok, that is your opinion, but it isn't going to change, so the stance of this game not being for you is the same. I know what this forum is, and I know the topic, however you do act like you know it all, even if you haven't said it bluntly, when really you haven't done anything in the game yet.
    If its not, then why don't you go away? If it is how you say: then your words mean absolutely nothing here.

    You don't bring anymore to the discussion from what i've seen.
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