Current State of End-Game Contents - A Blog Post from A Japanese Player

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Thanks. I will take a look at it. At a glance I don't see what makes this a harder fight than a fight in XIV though. It has mechanics and you can enrage the boss when you do it wrong. The only difference is that it is a larger raid and so people have a higher probability of jacking something up.

[Sandpark]

Here don't matter what enemy/environment does. Most class have no way react to dmg besides dodge.Dodge or eat dirt.If dmg lowered that situations bring. Cause no skills to counter each situation on case basis=jump rope. I brought up XI not cause all class had em, but "some had em beside the tank".If mnster AoE fire. What has more multi engagement?
1.Dodge
2.Tank cast AoE dmg reducing skill to counter specific enemy AoE & ppl dodge
3.Tank & mage cast dmg reducing skill to counter specific enemy AoE & ppl dodge
4.All have small dmg reduction to counter enemy AoE,ppl dodge

People know what used in these dungeons.It lacked variety in XI at times due to the enemy tact were 1 dimensional.Developer choice, a choice they could change. Here is small repeating rotation in player skills,enemy tact,environment situations.

[Dashuto]

Here was the strat: http://www.wowwiki.com/Razorgore_the_Untamed

Thanks for this!

[SDaemon]

Thanks. I will take a look at it. At a glance I don't see what makes this a harder fight than a fight in XIV though. It has mechanics and you can enrage the boss when you do it wrong. The only difference is that it is a larger raid and so people have a higher probability of jacking something up.

Razorgore was a pretty simple and straightforward fight. Wasn't really at all difficult, don't recall if ever testing anyone's mental stamina back in Vanilla.

[skaterger]

Razorgore was a pretty simple and straightforward fight. Wasn't really at all difficult, don't recall if ever testing anyone's mental stamina back in Vanilla.

The hardest part of that fight was finding 39 other people who could log in at the same time and raid. Generally the more players there are in the raid, the less dependent it is on individual skill. You could have half the raid of mouth breathers and still clear the raid if the other half knows what they're doing. Still remember many members of my guild afking while running through the trash and bosses in MC. The hardest fight in vanilla? Undoubtedly c'thun pre nerf. M'uru pre nerf in bc was also hard as hell.

[silentwindfr]

Razorgore was a pretty simple and straightforward fight. Wasn't really at all difficult, don't recall if ever testing anyone's mental stamina back in Vanilla.

it was asking a team of 40 player to do...TEAMPLAY, each of them doing jobs and adapting to the mass of add coming while the fight. not a classical tank and spank fight. in a sense it's more epic than get 40 person (or 8-24) one one big boss, i have always find it stupid... it make us look like a band of freaking incompetent to need soo many people for kill one person.

[SDaemon]

The hardest part of that fight was finding 39 other people who could log in at the same time and raid. Generally the more players there are in the raid, the less dependent it is on individual skill. You could have half the raid of mouth breathers and still clear the raid if the other half knows what they're doing. Still remember many members of my guild afking while running through the trash and bosses in MC. The hardest fight in vanilla? Undoubtedly c'thun pre nerf. M'uru pre nerf in bc was also hard as hell.

I remember. Was simply making a reply that razor gore wasn't that epic of a fight.

[Dashuto]

With third coil and shiva coming, it will be interesting to see if instant-wipes have been reciprocated in any fashion.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Well it wouldn't be a coil or a primal fight without instant deaths. Got to punish people for missing the beat of the fights.

[Exstal]

They should actually double up on the instant deaths. Nothing is more fun to all players than instant, nearly unrecoverable deaths.