Current State of End-Game Contents - A Blog Post from A Japanese Player

[zlotjko]

actually we did this with 3 or 4 people that never went into the fight before (post titan-egi fix). Took us about 2h to clear it.
I didn't want to go there yet (was a tank at that time), never looked at a guide, but the fc wanted to go. Both tanks were new and 1-2 dps.
I don't think its an easy fight, especially for the first timers, but i don't recall having dps checks issues. More was managing the orbs properly, randomness of spawn times and such things. Certainly an interesting fight, and challenging (at least for < ilvl 100), but as i said, with half of the team there for the first time, it was done in around 2h.

I just hope people don't ask for something like Ifrit Ex which was a HUGE letdown after Titan Ex.

[Colt47]

This is starting to sound a bit like the diet industry and how people blame all sorts of single things for causes of obesity. There is no one thing that is causing the community to be the way it is. The problem is inherent in the design of multiple systems, including end game. Honestly, if Coil and extremes didn't exist in this game I think there would be a whole lot less complaining then there is right now (not to mention a better balance of classes, people actually feeling like they have time to do crafting, and other such things that the game offers). Does that mean that doing this would stop the situation dealing with efficiency grinding or mercenary behavior? Most likely not, but if hunts are any indication I'd rather have things that bring the community together than something that just serves to tear it apart.

[Edli]

Honestly, if Coil and extremes didn't exist in this game I think there would be .

Less people playing. Coil and primals serve as a long term goal for a lot of people. Even though the majority may never beat it until they overgear + echo it it's still there as that one content they have yet to beat and something they can strive for.

If you make coil easy, to be cleared in a month by everyone people would just leave afterwards. What would be the point of doing hunts, roulette, relic? I did them only to get better gear and I wanted the better great for one reason only, to help me on coil.