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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano View Post
    Of course it has everything to do with average players, these elite players were once also newbies/average players to the game, some learn the game and became good at it, they naturally gravitate to each other to form groups to clear content. If someone is dedicated enough they can clear content in due time.

    Just saying.
    If you compare elite players to average and say the latter "hey look, people can do it", it doesn't address their own issues. It also fails to address the fact that statics (or semi statics, for that matters) are by no mean comparable to PUGs. I said that after that quote. Form a complete PUG with people you do not know at all, and intentionally die at an awkward moment. You'll see them falling apart, not trying all they have to recover. Do that with a static/semi static, they'll adapt more or less and try to recover (tanks switching roles, bard casting mana song for healers, dps not pushing phase...)


    Also, you're missing the point with that comment. The fact that elites were once average people have nothing to do with what I said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    Just to be sure, are you aware that videos about elite players not wiping on a tank death have nothing to do about the fact that average players and groups (and even "not-so-bad"/good groups) can't recover from a death ?

    Just saying.
    Where do you address the fact that average people can't recover from a death on the concerned content (T5, titan Ex, Coil2 here were the examples) like the elites do ?
    You're just saying that elites weren't able to do it once but now they can. Totally different point. In fact, you're even proving my point : average people can't do it while elites do.


    and before someone evades the point, I'm not saying here that average people can't clear content. Just that they can't do it the way elites do. So elite's kill videos are irrelevant to address the "average people can't recover (before nerf at some point)".
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    Last edited by Kuwagami; 06-20-2014 at 12:00 PM.