Just to be sure, are you aware that videos about elite players not wiping on a tank death have nothing to do about the fact that average players and groups (and even "not-so-bad"/good groups) can't recover from a death ?

Just saying.


A more accurate example could be my last T5 : everyone dropping dead one after another following a stupid mistake on the last DK before hatch phase, the healer swift raised me as a bard right when the tank dropped dead as well. LB3, echo helped us to win as the price of the OT being slaughtered the time for us to recover positions and focus. That was a complete PUG group with the sole condition being "know DK how to dodge twisters". People were not so great, dps was sloppy on conflags/snakes even with the 15%, but they were pro dodgers so who cares ?

It shows that players a little above average (provided they dedicated time learning the fight) can recover when things turn ugly. That said, if such a thing were to happen on T8/T9, it would be a wipe. Average players can't have the coordination and cold-blood needed for that when shit happens out of nowhere (in a PUG). That was the original point made by Yukiko.

And counter examples made of statics' kill or semi static (half static and half FC is so much more coordinated than random PUG... it's a whole different world) fail hard to address the point.
(still awesome recoveries though)


(and just to be sure that everyone understands what I'm saying, I bolded the important part. Thanks to echo)