Current State of End-Game Contents - A Blog Post from A Japanese Player

[Anyssa]

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You're spot on. You'll never convince the trolls of the other side of the argument because they have underdeveloped empathetic skills. It's a large problem in society today.

With regards to statics - it's fine if they work for you, but for 3/4ths of the year they don't work for me because of work, family, scheduling issues, etc. I've had "statics" in games like DAoC, WoW, EQ2, etc., and I'm tired of them. Often times they're not the people you want to be around because the nice/funny/ordinary people are kicked out due to there being no wiggle room for mistakes. Then there's the issue of a set schedule that just does not work for me (like I said).

When are these mmos going to evolve in some fashion away from reserving content for the troll elitists and open things up for mainstream gamers? I thought FFXIV might be that mmo, but it doesn't seem so.

[Clavaat]

With regards to statics - it's fine if they work for you, but for 3/4ths of the year they don't work for me because of work, family, scheduling issues, etc. I've had "statics" in games like DAoC, WoW, EQ2, etc., and I'm tired of them. Often times they're not the people you want to be around because the nice/funny/ordinary people are kicked out due to there being no wiggle room for mistakes. Then there's the issue of a set schedule that just does not work for me (like I said).

See, to me that is not necessarily the idea of a static being poor, but poor leadership creating issues. The statics I've built were built around people I have fun with, of varying skill levels. I just don't give up on them. If an individual is having problems with a certain part, I will work with them to help them figure it out. It's never a "you're bad, goodbye" kind of thing.

As far as the scheduling goes, let me put it this way: Do you watch TV shows regularly, like a series? Try to think of a static that way and it becomes much less cumbersome. My fiance has been very busy with work and stuff for a few weeks, so she pretty doesn't play at all except for our practice nights. 2 days, ~2hours each a week. Sure, this isn't the fastest pace, but we're generally able to work this way and successfully cleared T5 last week after a few weeks' practice Like I said, maybe others have had very negative experiences, but I feel that a static actually encourages healthy playtimes and experiences with other players.

EDIT: Also, a leader should be responsible for finding the best time that works for everyone. If your schedule is a little more erratic, they should be malleable and work with that.

[Melithea]

You're spot on. You'll never convince the trolls of the other side of the argument because they have underdeveloped empathetic skills. It's a large problem in society today.

When are these mmos going to evolve in some fashion away from reserving content for the troll elitists and open things up for mainstream gamers? I thought FFXIV might be that mmo, but it doesn't seem so.

Just to make this perfectly clear: I'm not trolling and I'm not even "on the other side of the argument". I very deliberately staked out neutral ground and positioned myself as a non-hardcore, non-elitist who hasn't even cleared T6. My purpose here is to figure out exactly what changes people think need to be made. Because any changes made are obviously going to affect me, too. That's why I keep challenging people to be more clear, more specific, more detailed, and pointing out problems with their answers. It helps them refine their arguments.

So far, I don't feel like the proposed solutions are any better than the current situation. They're just different. They have pluses and minuses that haven't been demonstrated to be an overall positive.

People say they're getting frustrated with not being able to do that special 5% of the content in the game that is actually challenging, getting bored and leaving because there's nothing else to keep them occupied. So none of that entire 95% of the rest of the game is worth staying for either? Ask the hardcore Coil raiders what their play schedule is like. For a lot of them, it's log in for 3 hours, clear Coil, log out for 165 hours.

This is not an issue with the difficulty of one dungeon and one trial. This is an issue with an overall lack of content in the game because the game is still very young and content is limited for everyone. It's getting a lot better as time goes by. There's a LOT of stuff you haven't done, you're just not interested in doing it. Which is okay, but you can't blame the content and you can't blame one hard dungeon for that.

I've played this game daily since Closed Beta. I still have lots of stuff to do. There is a TON of content for mainstream gamers. This idea that because a small slice of content is "reserved for troll elitists" (for a few months until they make it easier) and somehow this is ruining the game and making everyone quit isn't just wrong, it's ridiculous.

[IgnisFatuus]

There's a LOT of stuff you haven't done, you're just not interested in doing it. Which is okay, but you can't blame the content and you can't blame one hard dungeon for that.

what is this magical content you speak of? grind the same dungeons for atma/novus/sold/myth/sbing? so much variety.

yes, i know there are other things to do, but it comes down to "do the same thing in a slighty different coat of paint".

[Clavaat]

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I think there is a misconception about content in general here. It could just be General Board being General Board, but I don't know anyone in my LS/FC who is actually bored or out of content. We run the endgame stuff at our pace statically, but the rest of the time we collect tomestones, atmas, books, sightseeing, RP, leveling alt jobs, crafting, gathering, gardening or pickup EX, HM's, BC. I don't know, I find all of that stuff very fun to do, but I can understand why others don't.

[Melithea]

what is this magical content you speak of? grind the same dungeons for atma/novus/sold/myth/sbing? so much variety.

yes, i know there are other things to do, but it comes down to "do the same thing in a slighty different coat of paint".

I think there is a misconception about content in general here. It could just be General Board being General Board, but I don't know anyone in my LS/FC who is actually bored or out of content. We run the endgame stuff at our pace statically, but the rest of the time we collect tomestones, atmas, books, sightseeing, RP, leveling alt jobs, crafting, gathering, gardening or pickup EX, HM's, BC. I don't know, I find all of that stuff very fun to do, but I can understand why others don't.

The fact that I got both of these replies in the same minute is hilarious beyond words.

[Clavaat]

The fact that I got both of these replies in the same minute is hilarious beyond words.

He actually had one I forgot about which was SBing :P

[Yukiko]

(..) the game is still very young and content is limited for everyone. It's getting a lot better as time goes by. (..)

Played since 1.0 Alpha, and now i am speechless... 3 years and you still think it is young?
Sorry, but somehow i feel like you slapped me in the face... how long we have to wait?

[Atreides]

Played since 1.0 Alpha, and now i am speechless... 3 years and you still think it is young?
Sorry, but somehow i feel like you slapped me in the face... how long we have to wait?

Since 2.0 it's actually a whole new game, they scrapped pretty much everything from the old game and just let people keep their characters is all.
So yes, this game is still very young and not even 1 year old.

[Yukiko]

Since 2.0 it's actually a whole new game, they scrapped pretty much everything from the old game and just let people keep their characters is all.
So yes, this game is still very young and not even 1 year old.

Not true...
mechanic changed, but not much...
Titan and Leviathan already were finished but not released, Shiva and Ramuh were work in progress...

2.x is currently not even finished with "recoloring" 1.x content