

Winning is fun yeah, but that second quote is precisely the issue the OP talks about, it's just plain not fun getting those wins. Some people do get all their enjoyment from knowing they're above everyone else and have progressed beyond them so props to them I guess.
Personally seeing all the cutscenes up to T9 even after having Youtube'd them was great, just getting there every week is so unfun and not enjoyable, and I really get zero kicks from knowing some people can't get there or are still stuck in T5 so it's just a drudge, when it could all just be better executed to you know, have fun in a videogame instead of turning into an unfun chore.
I personally can't wait to do coil on tuesdays because i find it fun to get loot and practice on turn 9.
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