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    OSUBuckeye4's Avatar
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    Captain Lechuck
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Melithea View Post
    There's also a huge issue with the way this problem is being framed. People are taking issue with "mechanics-driven battles". The alternative to this would be battles with no mechanics. Think about what that would be. NO mechanics would mean every fight is basically the same as trash mobs. Are trash mobs fun? The only suggestion that the OP comes even close to making is truly randomized fights that use moves in an unpredictable order. I'm not sure if people realize that this would actually be both harder and less fun than what we have now. Yoshida has already explained why this is a terrible idea and basically takes victory out of the hands of the players entirely. Nobody has offered a real solution of how to remove mechanics and make content fun while keeping it challenging other than making the monsters stronger.
    Not sure if you're responding to me on this, or someone else.

    My point isn't to get rid of mechanices, it is to get rid of 100% scripted battles.

    Challenging content doesn't bother me at all. What bothers me is when I join up with 20 "serious players only, let's clear this, 3 strikes and you're out!" PF groups, run the content flawlessly on my end, and watch others screw up and groups disband time after time.

    The part that bothers me isn't that I have to try again... it's that I have to try again knowing that I'm going to do the exact same thing again because it's going to be the exact same battle.

    If the contect had the possiblity of being a different experience each time, it wouldn't bother me as much.

    It's the fact that I can literally run the first 90% of the Titan Extreme battle while sleeping, and still not be able to clear it... that ruins the entire game for me.

    When I do eventually dedicate an entire day to attempting to find a group that can clear the content with me... it's not going to be a feeling of joy, it's basically going to be a feeling where I shrug my shoulders and say, "well, about time".

    I mean, I've been in groups that have got past superbombs and then watched healers freak out and ruin the run, rather then run it again someone rages and leaves. It's just so frustrating because when you find another group and come back in, it's the EXACT same thing. No variation, no differences, run the exact same script over and over.



    TLDR version....

    Mechanics are fine. Battles that are the same script every time you run them are what is wrong with this game. It shows laziness on the part of the developers.

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    Oh, and my suggestion?

    Each boss has multiple scripts that you might encounter. You don't que up knowing that he's going to use the same 6 moves in a row until he gets to 80% health, then it's going to be 7 moves in the same order till 50%, then some adds will pop, then it's 7 moves in a fixed order till 20%, then you have a "do or die moment", then it's coast to the finish using the same set of moves.

    It's not fun when it's the exact same script from start to finish every time. I hate fixed patterns, I like to have to adapt as the situation plays out.

    If they need to nerf the difficulty slightly to add additional scripts for how a battle might play out, so be it. Make it challenging, but, don't punish people who aren't in statics by making them run the same thing over and over and over and over while trying to look for a group that can run the content with them.

    I guess that's really the only option I have left... join a static and breeze through the same content every week. Then my problem is the other side of the coin though, I start complaining about how easy it is and how there is nothing to do because my static and I breeze through everything in an hour or two and then log off for the rest of the week.


    This is the problem with the game... you're on one side of the coin or the other. You can either breeze through everyting because you have 7 other people along with you who have memorized the pattern, or, you are struggling in vain to find a group of 7... and constantly getting 3-4 people who are on board, and 3-4 who have no idea what they are doing.



    Whatever, at the end of the day it's just a video game and it's first world problems and yada yada yada, I know, I get it, I have a healthy perspective on all of it... but, I like to vent and get up on my soapbox from time to time. Shoot me.
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    Last edited by OSUBuckeye4; 06-17-2014 at 12:19 AM.