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    Quote Originally Posted by Yukiko View Post
    You do not, stream it to prove, i do not believe you!
    You said "take 2 hours/day" or "Turn 5 is faceroll easy", sorry but either you are meaning static or you just live in a dreamworld...
    You really believe Turn 5 is impossible with pugs from PF?

    Claiming that it is Impossible is a pretty big statement.

    Especially when posts like this have appeared before.

    And that is using the DF, it would seem far less likely that out of all the controlled PFs looking for people to clear t5, none of them have cleared it since the start of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
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    And now please tell me where i have said it is impossible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackoutz View Post
    Naja ich hab einfach gemerkt, dass man mit Mut und Freundlichkeit viel weiter kommt und den Menschen eine Freude macht :3
    Weißt du, wenn wir alle an einem Strang hier im Forum ziehen, dann kommen wir einfach so viel weiter und stärken die gesammte Community <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacost View Post
    but are simply playing for the joy of playing.

    my feeling when I read some pseudo-"hardcore" posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Pooky_Pasha View Post
    15% Echo Buff makes Turn 5 faceroll easy. It was solo-tankable (even by some PF groups) before echo, now it's super easy to solo-tank it. How is that living in a dreamworld or prove I run those with a static?
    Take a look at actual numbers and come say again that T5 is so faceroll easy. (hint : you can get % of completion for T5 in PS4 achievements. Unless you label PS3/4 players as "bad players", but then I can nothing for you.)

    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    And that is using the DF, it would seem far less likely that out of all the controlled PFs looking for people to clear t5, none of them have cleared it since the start of the game.
    Without even judging about EN/JP levels of skill, and solely on the reading of this reddit, you could see why they were able to do it when in NA/EU servers it would be hard :

    => playing at a time when "only good players" are
    => japanese people don't flame you for not going their way (they just leave if they can't stand it), ie less reasons to get the toxic DF groups we can see on NA servers on Coil/Ex primals, ie more chances to complete it even if you are not perfect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Melithea View Post
    There's a time for socializing, teaching new players how to play, and screwing around. End game raiding is time for seriousface. Instead of learning to step it up just a little bit, people seem to be learning to expect to have their hand held and the content cleared for them.
    while it may be true for some, you can't expect to fix people childish behavior by acting in a childish way.

    That's why I always leave any duty which I know I won't enjoy : people flaming, not even trying (by that I mean people saying : "OK we wiped one on titan HM, gonna wipe 4 more times to carry all these noobs". Well, ok, without me guys.) or more generally people who can't enjoy playing.
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    Last edited by Kuwagami; 06-16-2014 at 08:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    Take a look at actual numbers and come say again that T5 is so faceroll easy. (hint : you can get % of completion for T5 in PS4 achievements. Unless you label PS3/4 players as "bad players", but then I can nothing for you.)
    That number would only be true if they had a 100% retention rate. You need to remove everyone who has quit to get an accurate %.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amberion View Post
    That number would only be true if they had a 100% retention rate. You need to remove everyone who has quit to get an accurate %.
    Sure, but it won't go as high as a sufficient number to say it has become "faceroll easy".

    Even with, say, 50% of people who left (and assuming everyone who has beaten T5 stayed, which is highly unlikely to be true), 5-6% would become 10-12%, which isn't even remotely close from "faceroll easy" content
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    Take a look at actual numbers and come say again that T5 is so faceroll easy. (hint : you can get % of completion for T5 in PS4 achievements. Unless you label PS3/4 players as "bad players", but then I can nothing for you.)
    Throw that % around all you want. Currently FFXIV boast over 2 million players. Even if it was 20% of 2 Million that leaves 1.6m players not being part of that 20%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melithea View Post
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    I honestly think it was a troll attempt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    Throw that % around all you want. Currently FFXIV boast over 2 million players. Even if it was 20% of 2 Million that leaves 1.6m players not being part of that 20%.
    I did not understand that.
    Really
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    A 8-men play is not a MMO (for those who only play in static).

    You can have as many 8-men group as you want in a game, if they never mix and play with other people, it's not a MMO.
    Oh my Gosh it's so refreshing to see someone else identifying exactly what this game feels like majority of the time.
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