Current State of End-Game Contents - A Blog Post from A Japanese Player

[Gormogon]

Ya but people hitting a roadblock, then playing less and less because they're frustrated and see no way around that roadblock is exactly the problem we're trying to address. And it sounds like you have personal experience with that, so in cases like this I rather these players see something on the horizon that lets them know that eventually, at their skill level they will be able to clear that content.

That I agree with and I stated it in the start of this thread that one of the ways to address this issue is to simply make separate content as long as it gets released evenly and consistently with the other content.

I simply stated my personal experience because I know I can cope with it but I agree expecting others to do so as well, since money is involved, wont work out so well. There's no consistent gain but constant delay in trying to address that demograph of players.

It might take a bit more work (ATMA farming, farming gil for better gear/materia, etc) but eventually! Right now there is no light at the end of the tunnel for these guys, and they'll leave, there's plenty of MMOs out there, but I don't want to see FFXIV fail. Now with the JP post the OP translated, seeing the agreement and constructive arguments here, I have a renewed sense of optimism, that heck if we're making a big deal out of this on both sides of the pacific, maybe they'll listen.

Yeah there isn't. There's many ways to address this easier but the issue will always arise that those "hardcore" players and especially "elitist" are not gonna enjoy seeing casual and mainstream players get loot because they don't deem that they deserve it and it's an impossible issue to tackle because they wont compromise. As far as I've noticed the majority end up agreeing with "get good or take a hike" and that's a bad mentality to have since it kills communities.

And once again we're not asking for drastic changes, we are asking for a balancing of some mechanics, "mechanics" that insta-kill now should still be "mechanics" that insta-kill now, but one day with proper gear they "won't insta-kill". So maybe they become auto-dodgable, or when you have a certain iLvl they should do 25% less damage/knockback whatever. If casual players knew that, they would be a lot more eager to reach that iLvl/dodge skill and try again.

One of the simplest solutions would be to have some way to "nerf" bosses or "buff" a group.

As an example lets say that in turn 6 there were 2 paths which the group can take instead of going straight for Rafflesia. 1 of them buffs the group, akin to giving echo. The other you simply block the bee's from appearing or there's a way to get Rafflesia to lose those devour stacks.

The downside is that it take time as one would need to deviate from the path to go tackle those optional objectives and they only last for a certain amount of time. Aside from taking longer to start the boss fight you also get penalized by losing a piece of loot in the process.

Yet I doubt this idea will swing. Since those hardcore will feel like gear is being handed to bad players. Yet it's just an idea to try and address the issue. Sadly there needs to be a way to get "hardcore" and especially "elitist" to come to terms in agreeing with something justifiable.