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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
    Is that ideal hardcore elitist?
    From my perspective it is. Since I experienced it first hand in WoW the moment raiding required more than half the group to do the perfect dance. When it took up to 10-25% of the group to carry the rest it was never horrible since players could go months on attempts and keep it lighthearted and that was the case up until the end of WotLK for the exception of a couple of raids. Once Cataclysm came around and when doing fights that required 60% of the group to pull their weight it turn that lighthearted atmosphere into a very toxic environment with constant drama.

    As far as FFXIV goes from 2.0 to 2.2 I've experience that growth in toxicity and drama. I rarely ever see 5 wipes without drama. All it takes is for and elitist to see 1 bad thing no matter how minor and I already see them giving their condescending 2 cents even during the middle of a fight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clavaat View Post
    Overgearing content runs the risk of none of that mattering. What I described, I supposed can be construed as "work", but honestly, I find it fun and engaging to know your strengths and weaknesses, and work together to figure them out as opposed to giving up.
    That is where the issue lies in general.

    So what if content becomes easier over time through acquiring better gear? It's not like the hardcore elitists are going no I don't need it and they stash it on their retainers until the next coil is released.

    To me the overall circumstance just reeks of hypocrisy, yet whatever. Why not compromise and seek to have separate alternatives that appeases the hardcore and/or eltists, the mainstream, and the casuals, over having this constant drama?
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    Last edited by Gormogon; 06-19-2014 at 12:30 AM.