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    Quote Originally Posted by Iriadysa View Post
    What I said (which btw is taken completely out of context): "Titan extreme punishes you for being a pathetic dodger". What this means to anyone that isn't trying sound smart quoting Extra Credits is that when you fail at Titan it's because you suck at dodging. It's simple, you cannot dodge = you get punished by it.
    What the EC video talks about is the concept of "Punishing Difficulty", which is difficulty specifically designed to have a strong negative impact for failure. Let's talk about Titan Extreme now and think about this: what happens when you wipe at Titan Extreme? Simple, you recover instantly, the fight restarts and you can give it another shot. Yet another, another, another, another.
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    To quote the episode (@4:42):

    "Often, the arbitrary unstoppable deaths occur right in the middle of a 20 minute long battle that you were otherwise winning. Which means, the player has 10 minutes of doing something they already succeeded at."
    The standard time it takes to beat Titan is 9-12 minutes.


    Furthermore, each example in that episode was of a SINGLE PLAYER experience, where your success or failure wasn't entirely dependent on 7 other players' performance.

    So, even if you play perfectly, other players may die, and cause you to fail. The success/failure of your battle becomes arbitrary unless you have an 8-person static where each player is dedicated to spend the time needed get the win.

    For a casual player (even with echo) every arbitrary death in the final phase results in ~7 minutes of iteration time.

    Which means the player has: ~7 minutes of doing something they already succeeded at.


    The result is:
    Quote Originally Posted by OSUBuckeye4 View Post
    You end up either in a static that breezes through everything, or, you end up wanting to throw your controller through the TV because someone in your 12th PF group that day messed up and yet another group disbanded despite you doing everything correctly according to script.

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    Last edited by Zantetsuken; 06-17-2014 at 01:33 AM.