Current State of End-Game Contents - A Blog Post from A Japanese Player

[Grotesque]

Nektolous trolling is bad. He is not even funny with his troll posts. However, you still enrage about him and try to convince him xD

I mean seriously, I laugh about all people who talk about FCoB but didn't do a step yet in FCoB and take their opinions as utter trash, which it is. Like talking about bicycling but never riding a bike by oneself, lol, because bicycling is easy it is just sitting and stepping some pedals, it is mechanic-driven and has no rider skill involved. Tour de France is same all over again, almost no random mechanics, so no need to do Tour de France, but I could do it easily because I was already riding the bike in my neighbourhood.

[Zfz]

I mean seriously, I laugh about all people who talk about FCoB but didn't do a step yet in FCoB and take their opinions as utter trash, which it is.

Not really so.

Remember the game has a very strong emphasis on access. It tries to get more and more of the player population to experience everything, and that includes FCoB. So it actually does matter what people who haven't set foot in FCoB think of the fights in FCoB.

Why haven't people set foot in it? What can we do to get them to come? In the 2.x series the answers from the devs are Echo and gradually releasing Coils into the DF. In 3.0, they are releasing easy-mode of the end-game raid content in parallel. All this is done because it matters.

You don't have to care shit about non-cyclists opinion when you're organizing Tour de France, because you are organizing it for cyclists. But if you're the government trying to promote cycling among your population, you better as hell listen intently to people who don't cycle.

[KarstenS]

Not really so.

Remember the game has a very strong emphasis on access. It tries to get more and more of the player population to experience everything, and that includes FCoB. So it actually does matter what people who haven't set foot in FCoB think of the fights in FCoB.

And the producer itself already stated it a long time ago as he described, how they set up and balance the difficulty of the game content. When they balance the difficulty of content, they have a timeline how many players shall be able to finish that content within a specified period of time. He also told, that they modify the content when the numbers don't are like THEY expect.

That alone make it very clear: Not all content is made for everyone, because they design it with the focus on "shall only get beaten by x % of players till day y".

As long they do not change it anymore (BCoB, SCoB), the numbers are like the Devs want it to be.

[Zfz]

That alone make it very clear: Not all content is made for everyone, because they design it with the focus on "shall only get beaten by x % of players till day y".

They adjust it to get people who are not or can't do the content to finish it, i.e. they try to bring in more and more people into the content, which is exactly what I said. Two sides of the same coin.

[KarstenS]

They adjust it to get people who are not or can't do the content to finish it, i.e. they try to bring in more and more people into the content, which is exactly what I said.

But a little bit different, than some think or want it to get.

They have their timeline with an amount of players that should have done it after the amount of time they definied. When they see, it doesn't match, then they plan to audjust. Back in earlier days, after patch 2.2, the raisng of echo in BCoB got a break. The reason was simple. The number of players that finished grew faster than intended. So it got a break over serval weeks.

The point of what I'm writing is: the audjustments are already planned before the content get released. Its all about matching their intended numbers when and how they come.

[Grotesque]

No, because it is not possible to cater all ppl as well as it is not possible to cater non-cyclists for cycling competitions without pissing cyclists off like allowing to use E-Bikes for Tour de France. Coil is niche content, Pseudo-Master-Troll states random facts which are proven to be wrong, but he doesn't know because he wasn't in there yet and still keeps them ongoing, that is what I mean with utter trash.
I mean if someone says, I don't like coil because it has circular arenas, well then it is his opinion based on a true fact nothing denyable. Pseudo-Master-Troll just spills trash based on non-knowledge.

[Zfz]

No, because it is not possible to cater all ppl

They are trying to get more and more people into doing end-game raiding content. That is what matters. I'm not arguing about logic or anything. I'm telling what they are doing and will keep doing in 3.x.

[Grotesque]

They are trying to get more and more people into doing end-game raiding content. That is what matters. I'm not arguing about logic or anything. I'm telling what they are doing and will keep doing in 3.x.

Yes, and I also think it is necessary to adjust things. I'm fine with echo, I'm not fine with *irreversible* mechanic changes, but ok (I'd like to have the option for newcomers to choose between orginal and nerf version before entering, echo is already opt-out). It doesn't matter for our group anyway, our goal is just clearing content before nerf. But what we can conclude is, T13 is a beast of a fight. 8 people must be top of the game for 14 minutes at the same time.

[Bitty]

To the OP - I regret I have but one like to give. Thank you for taking the time you did to translate and thank you to the original Japanese Player who took the time to write down his/her thoughts.

Not going to bother reading the rest. Everyone has an opinion. As a (dreaded) casual player, I don't have a problem NOT clearing the most extreme stuff. Just don't let the Main Story get caught behind it.....

[BlaiseArath]

Okay, so, seriously, all the people giving Nektulos crap, its easy for you to use every logical fallacy at your disposal but can you actually discount anything he says? So far i haven't seen any of you do that at all. You dance around his argument and say he hasn't done it so he doesn't know (which is bullshit and you all know it, you don't need to do a fight to watch a video or understand that its a big old pattern).

Everything he's said thus far about it being mechanics driven is true. Its a mechanics driven combat system. Not saying this is bad, or that it means the fights are too hard... but what hes saying is accurate regardless of if he's been there, and if you actually had an argument to stand on you would address what he's saying instead of attacking a strawman of him not having been there. Plain and simple and everyone with a brain can see right through you