Current State of End-Game Contents - A Blog Post from A Japanese Player

[Raenryong]

They should just do what I believe WoW does, and have a standard version of raids (which isn't easy as such but is achievable with effort by the general population. Would drop gear which is inferior to that of the higher difficulties) and a standard difficulty (which is what it is now). Could even add an epic difficulty after that.

[Amberion]

2. Knowing your class inside out(so that you have your job in muscle memory for example..)

That in no way means the mechanics are hard.

1. Memory

Most fights you don't need to memorize. Could change in the future though when more fights are added.

3. Being able to execute a number of mechanics which differ greatly from fight to fight(reaction time, not panicking, recovering from medium mistakes)

Those aren't either mechanics.

Also, I did not say all mechanics are that easy, just that the majority is the standard "walk out of marked area". And to me personally, that is easy.

[Pibz]

That in no way means the mechanics are hard.



Most fights you don't need to memorize. Could change in the future though when more fights are added.



Those aren't either mechanics.

Also, I did not say all mechanics are that easy, just that the majority is the standard "walk out of marked area". And to me personally, that is easy.

So first people fail mechanics because they don't know their role well enough and have to look at their hotbar, now it doesn't make it any harder, ok.
But i'm tired of arguing over this kind of stuff so..
What would make it harder, having gear matter more?(this is horrible design) More complicated mechanics?(this thread is full of people saying that 95% can't deal with the ones we have) More randomness? I'm honestly asking what you would like to see changed.
I for one would like a bit more controlled randomness(if that makes any sense), but the issue is it would only make the ones failing in the current easy, as you call it, mechanics have even more troubles with that system.

[Amberion]

So first people fail mechanics because they don't know their role well enough and have to look at their hotbar, now it doesn't make it any harder, ok.

Let's say it like this. Is reading hard a book hard? Now someone comes and shakes the book, does it make reading itself hard?

Bah, what I mean is that it's an outside factor that influence it, not the mechanic itself. Hard time to conveying my thoughts here.

What would make it harder, having gear matter more?(this is horrible design) More complicated mechanics?(this thread is full of people saying that 95% can't deal with the ones we have) More randomness? I'm honestly asking what you would like to see changed.

I would like for my in-game character to have the most impact on if I win or lose a fight. As for the bold part, not completely it isn't. This is a RPG where stats and abilities should matter more then your Dance Dance Revolution skills.

Me personally if I was a dev, I would focus more on buffs, debuffs and enfeebles. Unfortunately though, their is no true enfeebling job yet in the game.

[Pibz]

I would like for my in-game character to have the most impact on if I win or lose a fight. As for the bold part, not completely it isn't. This is a RPG where stats and abilities should matter more then your Dance Dance Revolution skills.

It already does enough, but how does having more gear make things easier(which it already does, you can shorten phases which when prolonged can complicate things a lot) make it a better show of skill than actually dealing with mechanics that hurt you regardless of what ilvl your gear is(and not talking about big red aoe mechanics either)
Now as for usage of buffs and character skills being important it already is in current content, if you decide to use the abilities that give you burst damage at the wrong time you're going to cause your raid trouble, same if you use your defensive/healing cooldowns wrong.
However increasing the importance of buffs and debuffs on top of what we already have is definitely one way to make things more interesting, but again if people already fail on "just move" mechanics how would that be any more acessible?

[Rufalus]

I really enjoyed the OP and thank you for the translations. Certainly the people who use these forums the most fall into the hardcore player category and will disagree that there is any problem in an overly harsh way, and as such I don't want to look through all these replies, but it is very encouraging to see so many people clicked 'Like!' on your post. I agree with the original author's vision of a more flexible, more sociable game world which encourages participation and does not segregate elite players into small cliques of people who are capable of beating mechanics, and leaving all other people locked out of new content. It is too late for some people who have already quit the game after reaching endgame, failing to have enough coordination or reaction times to ever beat mechanics, and thus finding nothing else left for themselves to do. I look forward to minigames which I hope are fun and allow casual players something to enjoy besides raiding with brutal insta-wipes.

[Burien]

Thank you for translating that post as the points are valid. The biggest problem for our FC is the 8 person restriction as people feel left out... not a big deal since we can make teams but would like to structure events with the FC as a whole.

[MogBeatr]

So why do people fail it so much? And don't say lag. Most people failing are doing so because they react badly, not because of lag.

I can only speak for myself. When I fail, it is usually due to lack of concentration or familiarity.

Have you beat Ttitan Ex or any of the new coil turns?

I have tried Ifrit Ex once in DF and failed that attempt. I have not been to SCOB yet (played just a few months so far).

My opinion on skill is based on my experiences. I started playing MMORGs in late 1997 with the beta of Ultima online and eventually went to work for Origin Systems. I have played a good majority of the genre released since then.

[NefarioCall]

I completely agree...

[Ginga_K]

Well Nice article, content for "never ending" updating patches seems to
be aiming at prolonging players subscriptions esp 2.25 onwards.

Raids aint a prob if u have parties for practice n play,
or if u learn the usefulness of "focus target bar"

As I only hv 1-3 hr available free time daily...

Fm 2.25 onwards :-
- Can u speak Japanese?
- Pls watch e video before we play together
- Oh I hv ilvl115 weapon, pls catch up.
- Pls follow e pattern, otherwise disband
- Dps waiting time on DF.. at least 30mins for a 10min dungeon rush.
- Oh this is a need party, n got wipe 10 times till disband.
- Haha I got my Animus, oh wait ... u cleared t9? wth is Animus.
- Yeah I got Alexandite map... oh crap I got 5mins vs a mob of 20 monsters
resist sleep/stun etc....gd bye 800myth.

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Well, if "Pro players" need randomness, put all raids/dungeon as 3/7ppl party
and let a 4/8th random player from server to join.

However, recent updates seems to be done to retain elites.

Otherwise T5/T9 should hv wkly lockouts.
SE shd implement a "training mode" option on raids/dungeons with no loot.