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    Kensei's Avatar
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    Kensei Oppa
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    1.18 Bittersweet.

    So we are being forced to group again just like in XI. I got CON and THM to 20 these past couple of days to be able to solo decently and it was for nothing. Did you see that MP cost? Aside from mages I don't think we can solo anymore.

    Also I want to say that I feel for THMs. You guys got nerfed to absurd levels. I understand SE is again forcing a healer in PTs and getting CON back into the picture but really this is the classical scenario were Devs go overboard and take a class from OP to below average in a single patch instead of gradually adjusting.

    We'll see how this plays out when we get to try this but for now it's a bittersweet feeling.
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    i'm pumped about being forced to group.. sorry this isn't a single player game! I logged off many times because I had to solo everything and there was no option for group play..
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    Soube Miseux
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    I'm done now. After everything I've put up with, not being able to solo a single monster is just too much. This game is done for me, later everyone.

    And sorry to all my friends on Besaid, I'm gonna miss you all.
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    Leves are for soloing.
    You get your MP refreshed after every Leve.

    + Second Wind and Bloodbath, which are DoW healing skills got enhanced.
    + enemys got balanced too, so just wait, play and than complain.

    people starting to quit now, without even trying how the game feels, is really kind of overdramatic...
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    Last edited by Jabo; 07-22-2011 at 09:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forbin View Post
    i'm pumped about being forced to group.. sorry this isn't a single player game! I logged off many times because I had to solo everything and there was no option for group play..
    Sorry, this isn't correct! It's a hybrid. The concept behind FFXIV is that it can cater to group play via dungeons and solo play via leves--at least it is supposed to. Kensei may have a point thogh (we'll need to play the post-1.18 game to be sure): with the changes to the battle system, solo and casual play may be very difficult indeed.
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    I want to play when I want to play. I don't want to sit around all day scratching my butt and waiting for ls members to log in or random people to invite me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabo View Post
    Leves are for soloing.
    You get your MP refreshed after every Leve.

    + Second Wind and Bloodbath, which are DoW healing skills got enhanced.
    + enemys got balanced too, so just wait, play and than complain.

    people starting to quit now, without even trying how the game feels, is really kind of overdramatic...
    I like your optimism but you gotta read between thee lines. The game got a lot less solo friendly. You'd be right if we could do infinite amount of leves but that's not the case.

    Also you are saying we should use Second Wind and Bloodbath? So we can't use WS because we gotta keep using Second Wind to heal? But wait a minute we needed the TP to use WS with Bloodbath to make the healing passable! Yep, good luck with that!
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    Last edited by Kensei; 07-22-2011 at 09:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidolphus View Post
    Sorry, this isn't correct! It's a hybrid. The concept behind FFXIV is that it can cater to group play via dungeons and solo play via leves--at least it is supposed to. Kensei may have a point thogh (we'll need to play the post-1.18 game to be sure): with the changes to the battle system, solo and casual play may be very difficult indeed.
    I've played FFXI since jp launch and very casually for the past 5 years and have a Relic weapon.. You can play any game casually if you want. The casual group just thinks they need everything RIGHT NOW! because I don't wanna actually have to work for it.. I wanna blow through all the content and move on to the next Casual friendly game.. I myself actually like grouping up, making friends, enjoying the game for many years, and working towards something that feels REWARDING. Yes it took me close 5 years to get a relic weapon.. but so what, I had a blast making friends, helping out, and just playing casual.. On days I couldn't spend 2-3hrs I'd work on other stuff. It's an MMO, it is what FF fans have come to expect from SE MMO's there are plenty of other games out there that cater to the GIVE IT TO ME NOW! crowd.. go try em out. I hope they continue to make these kind of changes.. Signed a VERY casual player(i currently get an hour or two a day to play and some days none at all......)
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  10. #9
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    Reinheart Valentine
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    did you guys try it out solo before posting in here? I'm solo/duo player myself but I'm not going to complain till I tried it out first so just wanted to see if the opinions in here are from trying the game after the patch out.

    If it's really that bad... hope wife don't get disappointed lol.
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    Kilea Maky
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    Personally, I think things will go very well -- it may even feel like FFXI did back in the days of PLD tanking and proper SCs (although that kind of stuff is yet to come). I'm excited about a lot of the changes, especially to gathering jobs, which had been a pain in the butt to level before.
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