Dungeon Blacklist (Suggestion)

[NaliaBrown]

If it was limited to only being able to omit the dungeon you ran last, that might work. It would still help solve the issue with getting tired of repeatedly getting the same one, without running the risk that everyone would omit the same dungeon and that one couldn't fill queues. But being able to choose whichever one you want and permanently omit it would leave open the problem that DF was put there to solve.

I think this is the missing link. This is what is needed. I do my low-level roulette once a day. I have gotten Cutter's Cry 3 days in a row. That's what bothers me. This way, I would get Cutter's Cry on Tuesday, something else on Wednesday, and maybe Cutter's again on Thursday. That's not nearly as bad as getting it every day. And I think it still maintains the integrity of the roulette.

[Nalien]

Russian Roulette would be pretty boring if everyone could just blacklist the loaded cylinder.

I could maybe get behind them adjusting the system so repeat instances become less likely the more you do them, but out right blocking an instance is foolish, as most people gladly see.

Honestly, if you're tired of Copperbell all the time, just take a break from doing Roulette. You don't have to do them every single day. I was in the exact same position, now I do Roulettes for Challenge Log and boredom only. When I get Copperbell, I probably didn't do it yesterday, so it's better (plus I'm bored anyway). When I don't get Copperbell, hey I didn't get Copperbell! Great!

[RakaMaimhov]

Many of you have raised some good points.

Shame on those of you whose tone comes off as condescending. I really appreciate being talked to like I'm a child. I hope your egos feel better for your effort. I'm fully aware of how DR works and what it's intended to do.

I still disagree that allowing us to personally opt out of one particular instance would necessarily defeat the purpose. Think of how many people rage quit a roulette because they didn't like what they got? I suppose there's nothing wrong with that at all, right? Working as intended.

Those of you who suggested that perhaps DR can simply omit the last dungeon you did (like yesterday's meatloaf) this is a wonderful suggestion. I would be happy to see this implemented, if nothing else.

Oh, and maybe have the bonus removed for people who rage quit a dungeon at the start because "It wasn't the one they wanted". Maybe I should have titled my thread:

"Remove Once A Day Bonus for those who rage quit within the first 15 minutes of a dungeon" or somesuch. Seems long-winded. Wouldn't be surprised if such a thread exists.

Feel free to continue to discuss, or belittle my intelligence and experience for your own benefit. I've said my piece. Thanks to those of you who have replied to my thread with constructive comments both for and against this idea.

[Niwashi]

Oh, and maybe have the bonus removed for people who rage quit a dungeon at the start because "It wasn't the one they wanted". Maybe I should have titled my thread:

"Remove Once A Day Bonus for those who rage quit within the first 15 minutes of a dungeon" or somesuch. Seems long-winded. Wouldn't be surprised if such a thread exists.

I support the idea, and yes, such a thread exists. It's here:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...they-enter....

[Musashidon]

[Kuwagami]

This idea is against the purpose of DR.

And FYI, DR in the first days was bugged on the first 3 dungeons because it was Qing anyone with anyone, so there were often 4 people using DR together, Qed for the 1st dungeon available (sastasha, the if full tam-tara and then if full copperbell). After the fix (or at least for me since the fix, with 4 DR everyday), there is always at least one pesonne who Qed for the dungeon not using roulette, so its purpose is restored...

[SummonerSenah]

I think the issue with a dungeon blacklist is that there are some dungeons that are almost universally disliked. Toto-rak and Aurum Vale come to mind. Toto-rak is a dungeon required for the story, though. If a lot of people refused to run it, then people trying to progress their story would have a much harder time getting a group. Thus, I think the suggestion of not having the same dungeon two days in a row is a better solution.

[RakaMaimhov]

So true. /10char

[Elvie]

stuff

First of all, no one in this thread has been condescending to you. So stop dismissing everything you don't want to hear as if someone's is just being nasty to you.

Second of all, you say you get the purpose of DR, but I'm really not convinced that you do. If you are tired of a particular dungeon and don't want to run it - how about going into DF, selecting a bunch of dungeons that you do want to run, and seeing which pops up first. Of course, you won't get the bonus for DR, but if you don't want to run the risk of ending up in a dungeon you don't want to do, then that's your choice. If you want the bonus then you just suck up whatever dungeon comes your way (even if it's the same one you've done 400 times in a row) - because that is why you are paid a bonus for it in the first place. DR isn't for you. It's for the players who need you in their dungeons.

[MeiUshu]

you want to know something, I read the whole threads and something flashed at me, what happened in this thread is EXACTLY what happens in a dungeon when someone tries to explain how it works and the others continue believing that they only are right and know best the rest are a bunch of trolls..too funny

@Raka


The point of the matter is

a) You shouldnt go into roulette. Roulette means just that random, random in this game has some mechanics, for dungeons roulette it is determined with what needs to be filled in order to allow low-level players /new players not yet 50lvl players to complete it and advance, if Sastasha is the most demanded when you click *roulette* then it is where you are going to end up, you in a way participated to determine your own random, by clicking in that instant where the dongeon that needed you was Sastasha. Nobody forced you to go there, and click it at the instant you did click. So if we wanted to be right up to the end, YOU decided you wanted to go into Sastasha without you being aware that you did....(i know too hard to understand)

b) DR isnt there for you, you are passed that level already, you are well above that level in some cases, so what you do is a good action by helping others. If you find this too much for you, as your posts lead to believe, then maybe you shouldnt ever again press DR and concentrate only on choosing your own dungeons, multiple choice is possible within the same list you will then join one of those you have chosen, which would mean narrowing down the choice of dungeons you want, of course you dont get any rewards as such for doing.


c) Rewards are there for those people that went out of their way and took out of their free gaming time some of it to help others. I am sure you do not want to be filling the list of selfish elitists people that populate this game...or maybe you want, and is why you made this suggestion (of course I am assuming but then again your posts lead me to this conclusion)

d) in the end, roulette may be random but when you make a decision knowing in advance the conditions then there is no reasons to complain thereafter. If you cant live with the choice you made, where everything is known in advance, I am sorry but you might want to re-evaluate your ways. Not to mention that this game allows you to not be bothered by runing into 10000000x same dungeons since you can decide what you want to do...of course no rewards...

e) everything has a price, you help you get one you dont help you dont get any..cant have both right ?


Conclusion : Blacklisting dungeons is totally useless and would defeat the purpose of the DR (i think this has been said at nauseum)
Mei