Something is seriously wrong

[Tigerclaw]

Fresh 50s start with 3kish hp... some people would rather gear by dungeons then buy gear off the ah... people with the mindset that high hp/gear means "omg this person will be awesome" will be sorely disappointed..just saying.
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High HP may not equal high skill, but being pathetically undergeared (AF, PVP gear, etc. in anything beyond WP) is a trend among lazy people who want everyone else to work harder so that they can skip a reasonable gear progression. I was in Lost City with an AF DRG wearing a lvl 9 ring, an NQ one at that. Similar situation with a PLD wearing STR+ accessories (and not the good kind). Similar situation with noob SMN's and DRG's who have the HP - but because they added VIT instead of their DPS stats. The game is full of scrubs who need to be shamed and ridiculed, not coddled with talk of HP being irrelevant to skill.

[Aelinau]

. The game is full of scrubs who need to be shamed and ridiculed, not coddled with talk of HP being irrelevant to skill.

How about shining some light on these players in "awful" gear then letting them cont in such a state? you are correct in that some people use things in the wrong way...(spirit bonding in dungeons for one) i was only pointing out that the OP ilvl was probably much higher then the tnk(we dont really know as it wasnt said).. therefor alot easier for him to take hate off said tnk.

On a side note haukke drops ilvl60 gear..for those wanting to gear through dungeons.. an ilvl 70+ on a geared for dungeon only tnk can take hate off said person. You cant expect people to spend 100k-300k i70 to 700k+ i90lvl (famfrit) off ah or lvl all crafts to 50 to chance crafting it themselves.. Casual gamers, Fresh players take time to gear. That being said im not making excuses for those "lazy" people you speak of but more giving another point of view on the matter.