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    Serious Pharos?

    So I have beaten Pharos before it was nerfed and after it was nerfed but this last attempt was just bonkers.

    (._.)'

    Mostly overgeared party couldn't beat 1st boss for almost a full hour. The problem was that even if dps didn't dot the boss and only auto attacked him, when they moved to wolves, my own auto attacks(i84/i86 str/vit WAR) were enough to push into more wolves and then the whm just using cure took too much hate from the wolves. The blm left, and the smn that came in after him left too. We finally beat it with the smn (he left afterwards) by doing a myrmidian princess on the boss. We burned, smn helped heal me, and whm ran around the room dragging all the wolves around.

    Then afterwards with 30 mins left to go, I tried to sac pull and it just didn't work, so smn leaves and then we fight our way to the bird, and um? When did they add a third mage crystal(sprite?). There was one at the bottom, one on the stairs and then a third one killed the whm at the top and we don't know where it came from. At least, I mean, I don't remember there ever being a third one.

    And something kept killing the monk, I wasn't losing hate from what I could tell, and he said at least twice maybe 3 times he took a hit that did exactly his (max hp + 1) i think.

    Luckily a drg from my fc joined and we finished pharos starting from the bird boss to the end in about 13 mins i think

    But really? Can i please have more of this, it was a challenge, we felt stupid, we actually had to think, and we (me, whm, monk(first timer)) never gave up.

    Sorry for the huge post (o _o)
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    I've recently had this dungeon come up in roulette.

    Each party the DPS have been over geared. And we wiped to the first boss. So to resolve this I've just stopped attacking the boss completely when adds pop and everyone jumps on adds with healer running away to avoid stacks. Then back to boss. Definitely easy now to push phases unless most are i75 or below, on that first boss.
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    The wolves are spawned based on the captain's HP, so the more you damage him, the more wolves would appear, if you ignored the wolves. Best thing to do is when the wolves spawn, stop all damage and focus on the wolves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coth_X View Post
    Then afterwards with 30 mins left to go, I tried to sac pull and it just didn't work, so smn leaves and then we fight our way to the bird, and um? When did they add a third mage crystal(sprite?). There was one at the bottom, one on the stairs and then a third one killed the whm at the top and we don't know where it came from. At least, I mean, I don't remember there ever being a third one.
    There are three elementals total on the way from first to second boss. 1st right after the room, 2nd patrolling on the stairs, 3rd on top of the stairs stopping shortly before the spot where you enter. It has always been there, but 99% of the time you dont even see it because it patrols behind you (and you normally dont look to the left when reaching this point)

    And to your boss problem... when the whm takes aggro from the wolves, the dps are not taking them immediately out. I have had that problem myself quite often, even overgearing this dungeon easily, if the second dps doesnt help killing wolves it can get really hairy.

    Anyways, im happy you at least made it through the end xD this dungeon is one of the rare occasions where it actually can get harder the more dps you do

    ('-')/
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    Oh you guys misunderstand, our dps were immediately jumping on the wolves, the problem was my own dps was spawning wolves too soon, and dps and healers got swamped. I'm not sure how geared the blm was, I know the monk had at least 3 myth pieces, but the blm left after I think the 2nd or 3rd wipe.

    When I've ran this before it hadn't been an issue, but for some reason this day it was.

    So the 3rd elemental has always been there? Well we went up to the bird short a dps, so it taking longer might have been why that was a little bit of a surprise.

    It was nice even if it was our mistake, because I havent been challenged by these dungeons(well pharos has always been "fun"). I just really wish SE would put actual progression in and give us i80+ 4 man content that isn't super easy to clear.
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    Just stop attacking the boss when the wolves spawn? You can't complain about pushing phases when it's you pushing them...
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    the tank can use esc or "change stance" key (w for me) when the wolves pop too.... it stops dps with good results

    as for the attack on the monk, it seems a lot like "banish III"

    the crystals have that attack, which is an AoE. If you don't silence/stun it, dps and healer might die
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    As a tank, I typically grab the wolves and switch to DPSing the wolves also. If the DPS is good enough, they die before giving me any stacks of the debuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deifact View Post
    Just stop attacking the boss when the wolves spawn? You can't complain about pushing phases when it's you pushing them...
    I was only auto attacking so that I could continue parrying, was having the issue of still taking dmg because the healer was getting attacked by the wolves. And this isn't a complaint thread. Contrary to that, I'd like more of this, if I have a complaint, its that everything is too easy, although I really need to push through more of the ex primals I just don't have a big FC and I know df is worthless for that, and my game time is usually late night when there's a lot less people on.

    The game mostly has a its challenging until you learn it and then its not hard feel.

    (._.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    the tank can use esc or "change stance" key (w for me) when the wolves pop too.... it stops dps with good results

    as for the attack on the monk, it seems a lot like "banish III"

    the crystals have that attack, which is an AoE. If you don't silence/stun it, dps and healer might die
    I try to stun every banish III, but we might have been fighting 2 at the same time on the second set of stairs, I never realized banish III was an aoe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coth_X View Post
    The game mostly has a its challenging until you learn it and then its not hard feel.

    (._.)
    Ex primals are no different from the rest of the game. Learn it, then faceroll it.

    Titan will require a no-lag blessed day though to be done if you haven't already..

    Quote Originally Posted by Coth_X View Post
    I try to stun every banish III, but we might have been fighting 2 at the same time on the second set of stairs, I never realized banish III was an aoe.
    I noticed it the day I stepped in as a dps. On my WAR I just stun everything I can with a "sounds bad" name like "spell III" or more. On dps job, I just died with no idea until I saw it once more. (._.)
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