Brayflox HM - All sorts of Chaos

[Foo01]

Is true that Brayflox HM has the shortest queue time?

It seems that it gets all types of players almost all the time. And perhaps because I shouldn't have try to grind it this past weekend maxing soldiery and trying to get more myths, but it seems that it really it like a "box of chocolates" so to speak.

I've done tank, healer, and dps on there. It seems that tanks and healers gets equal amount of flak. As tank, I get this, pull more, pull less. And one time, after everyone says they were ready, I pulled just 6 mobs, and the healer in like iLevel90+ gears says "WTF" and rage quits.

Then as healer, I have gotten this, some tank runs off as soon as they get protect and pulls the whole zone from the get go ends up behind the bridge or something and dies and complains he only got 1 heal. I can't even move into position in time to heal the lousy iLevel80 tank and we wipe. Immediately, the tank does it again, and I barely squeeze in 2 lustrates and the party wipes again. The tank rage quits after ranting about how he's done 6 min 30 sec runs.

Granted most runs don't end up in messes like this. But it really runs the gamut.

But it seems as DPS I can be mostly oblivious, as long as the mobs and bossed burn down there are no issues. I know some people want to speed run and some people are new, but if people don't communicate and just rage quits it doesn't solve any problems.

Perhaps I am jinxing myself, but luckily, I have not ran into the moron that just wants to abuse the duty finder for myths and quits after the 2nd boss.

[Raeanya]

I had this last night on roulette. The tank did a SR pull and we wiped twice. I told him that I was only ilvl74, and he apologized and pulled less. He said it was his fault that he didn't check to see what kind of gear I had, though I plan to announce from now on that I am still undergeared for a SR (I'm now at ilvl 78 after the dungeon dropped DL ring and body, and I picked up myth boots). We finished the run with no other deaths. Communication is key.

[Corfish]

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I've had tanks make pulls I'm not comfortable with in Bray HM even after I explicitly state what I am comfortable handling. "I can heal through anything picked up here to there, and you just need to split that group and we'll be fine." It was kind of annoying the tank ignored me and made pulls I said I wasn't comfortable with. Luckily he must've been better geared than other tanks since I was able to keep him healed up. Generally speaking I get more patient DF groups, but this guy wasn't having none of that. Maybe he was just confident in himself, but I know I would've been blamed had anything gone wrong =/

[necrosis]

Welcome to the problem I always have.

Every time I ask for some communication I am met with "Learn to adapt". Or when someone asks how the pulls will go I get "Oh god some nub. Want me to pull one mob at a time nub?".

2 books worth of myth and tanks always stopped at the bottom of the ramp. Then I get one war who pulls to the top thus dieing as i already popped seal and he was already half dead because I didn't expect it. "You stupid WHM you always pull to the top." "No you stupid tank in about 30 runs no one has ever pulled to the top."

I don't ask for a lot. After that I started asking. "How many groups?" "Where are you stopping?" "Pulling to boss?" "Lockout?"

[TiyaKelth]

2 books worth of myth and tanks always stopped at the bottom of the ramp. Then I get one war who pulls to the top thus dieing as i already popped seal and he was already half dead because I didn't expect it. "You stupid WHM you always pull to the top." "No you stupid tank in about 30 runs no one has ever pulled to the top."

While I believe you that most don't pull to the top, the reason many do (myself included), is that you don't have to deal with the bomb aoe's if you pull up to near the stream.

[Lemuria]

While I believe you that most don't pull to the top, the reason many do (myself included), is that you don't have to deal with the bomb aoe's if you pull up to near the stream.

I'm not entirely sure that's accurate. Several groups who pulled up the ramp with me as healer found themselves dodging the AoE from the cannon the whole time, right outside the boss room. I believe a key mob needs to be slain before the boss leaves you alone properly, otherwise you'll be dancing around them right up until the boss.

[Ghishlain]

I'm not entirely sure that's accurate. Several groups who pulled up the ramp with me as healer found themselves dodging the AoE from the cannon the whole time, right outside the boss room. I believe a key mob needs to be slain before the boss leaves you alone properly, otherwise you'll be dancing around them right up until the boss.

I think it depends on how far back you pull them. I haven't had a need to dodge any cannon fire when my tank pulls them past the ramp and just around the corner on the right before the river. If you stop just at the top of the ramp, I believe you're "still in range" of the cannon.

[KingOfAbyss]

While I believe you that most don't pull to the top, the reason many do (myself included), is that you don't have to deal with the bomb aoe's if you pull up to near the stream.

Yesterday night, doing the same pull at the same place, we got the Aoe? Hope it was just a one-time occurence..

[TiyaKelth]

Yesterday night, doing the same pull at the same place, we got the Aoe? Hope it was just a one-time occurence..

Odd. I run up to the little area to the right, right next to the stream, and never get the aoe there

[necrosis]

While I believe you that most don't pull to the top, the reason many do (myself included), is that you don't have to deal with the bomb aoe's if you pull up to near the stream.

I have no trouble with the 'why'. Just at least tell me your doing it.

WHM is the superior healer for Bray. On the first pull a pld can HG and you can get 4 Cleric Stance Holys in. With a WAR, you can holy until vengeance is off. On the second pull you don't have to heal either tank. Divine Seal Medica 2 -> Regen the tank, swift cleric Holy, presence of mind Holy spam. A good WHM can potentially out dps a blm on the second pull if they die in under 20seconds.

Furthermore, WAR is the better tank for berserk/bloodbath overpower spam. WHM/WAR/BLM/BRD(BLM) have given me the best results while I worked on my animus.

Notes taken. Will have to look into moving around some macros. Anything to make Longstop (Hard) suck less and I am the one that can make it suck less.

Kind of nice when the healer can do something to make the run go better. Most of that is usually on the DPS or Tank.