Can s/e actually make a "dungeon"?

[KingOfAbyss]

Kill all trash mobs, leave no one alive, drops something else than 'Tiny Key'

Use said item to unlock special rooms where you are locked until you kill all mobs inside - or discover a treasure, but trapped with puzzle like Temple of Qarn to solve. (broken parchment that needs to be placed in order and read to open it)

- dark room, you must lit all candles in a pentagram fashion, but wind sprites are having fun messing with you, you need to 'comfort' them.. (if pentagram is lit in reversed order.. o.O )

- plates that needs to be move into proper position, else you open the barrier and need to fight the beast..

Using specific skills as well..

- Bard's Song that needs to be done in order, or Monk that uses Mantra (channeling) to siphon all water in the room and gain access to another floor..

Lots of possibilities in here.

[Akirakogami]

play dungeons and dragons.

This "dungeon" you're talking about does not exist in MMOs

[Wadoka]

Welcome to the Tomb of Horrors, where the Lich Acererak awaits...

....muahahahahahahaaaaaa...!

[Algin]

BAsically you want dungeons the old Dungeons and Dragons Online style... that was my first MMO and I remember so well all the quest chains, like Delera and the epic dungeons filled with traps, that could only be disarmed by rogues, limited number of mana, that could be only regained in shrines, that disappeared after usage, so you had to carefully plan and go wisely. I remember the great designs of likes of Crucible, that had jump puzzles, swim puzzles, and lots of any other puzzles, along with epic maze. Speaking not, that some puzzles were doable only if you had enough skills in trap detection...

Not a single game so far came even close to the quality of DDO dungeons. And, as much as I love the design and work S/E put into things like Amadpor City or Sastasha, they lack puzzles. I'd love stuff being more difficult and require more thinking instead of roflstomp. And yes, the i110/i100 items should be scaled down in most of lev 50 stuff.

[Kerberon]

BAsically you want dungeons the old Dungeons and Dragons Online style... that was my first MMO and I remember so well all the quest chains, like Delera and the epic dungeons filled with traps, that could only be disarmed by rogues, limited number of mana, that could be only regained in shrines, that disappeared after usage, so you had to carefully plan and go wisely. I remember the great designs of likes of Crucible, that had jump puzzles, swim puzzles, and lots of any other puzzles, along with epic maze. Speaking not, that some puzzles were doable only if you had enough skills in trap detection...

Not a single game so far came even close to the quality of DDO dungeons. And, as much as I love the design and work S/E put into things like Amadpor City or Sastasha, they lack puzzles. I'd love stuff being more difficult and require more thinking instead of roflstomp. And yes, the i110/i100 items should be scaled down in most of lev 50 stuff.

It's too bad that game was ruined in recent years. At least there are still good memories I guess.

[alhandra]

i would just be happy to see a few twists and turns, maybe a real dead end here or there. and trap.. real traps that are deadly =D. for the most part every dungeon is just a straight shot to the boss with no real danger. ive found the most dangerous part of every dungeon is always the other players xD

at the same time tho i think full randomly generated dungeons are a bad idea, games with this design tend to get bland really fast and still end up looking mostly the same anyways

[Souljacker]

2 hours is far too long for a 4man dungeon. Nothing outside of raids should be that long, ever. 20-30 minutes is even pushing it, but ok.

That aside, I do agree that the sequential nature of dungeons makes them boring and prone to "speed runs" and other content that excludes players of certain classes or experience. More randomness, and true, actual "randomness", would combat those issues. You wouldn't always be able to speed run because you never know what you are going to get. I think it might be more work for the devs than just drawing a map from point A to point D and dropping a couple flans, soulflayers and puks along the way, but it would make XIV stand out from the rest.

[Reogrym]

It does sound kind of fun, but I'm not sure if taking the game into a roguelike style of direction is the way to go.

..That said, it does sound kinda fun.

[SecsyMancat]

Diablo 3 anyone?

[Buffo_The_Clown]

If Square were to make a dungeon like this, there would have to be a few rules;

1. The dungeon would have to have sections that save your state. Each section would take 30 minutes to complete. If you leave in the third section, next time you queue up for the dungeon you start at that section. This is so that people can complete the dungeon on their own time. This may not be necessary for pre mades, but for PUGs, 2 hours is too long to finish in one sitting.

2. The dungeon would not appear on roulettes. This dungeon would have to be picked intentionally.

3. The dungeon would also not be needed for farming. Perhaps you gain a currency for each section, and you trade those currencies for cosmetics, such as clothing, minions, mounts, furniture, etc... Perhaps add different effects to your weapons/armor.